Intercoolers (Again Sorry)

[3rtt]

Has anyone fitted the Race Intercooler (with double fans) offered by Noblemods?

Any endorsements, or feedback greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
Ian.

[doksie]

I am also glad this question has been asked as i would like to upgrade my intercooler.i had my eye on the race intercooler too...are there any others that are worth a look.

thanks

Dean.

[adrian w]

The weather must be getting better. Easily the most effective one is the Proally unit developed with Roush. Fully datalogged and offering significant gains over the Pace/Faulks/Noble mods unit.

[chillidog]

I have this one (Noble M12 intercooler upgrade) - www.proalloy.co.uk/cgi-bin/shopwise.pl?act=sect&pt=52&s=325&id=proalloy

The picture shows it fitted on on Adrian's car.

I'll only know in the summer if it works 100% but so far I've had no noticeable heat soak issues when racing.

AFAIK this is the best one available.
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Richard

[chillidog]

Adrian

Are you going to have to go for a CC to maintain your 600 bhp ?
--
Richard

[alex s]

With no fans surely it will heat soak in non race conditions... eg, traffic.
Not sure how it can be said to be better than the Noblemods race IC, has that been tested along side the pro alloy one?? I am pretty sure Graham has not sold/lent one that has been tested by roush.
Not saying either is better, just slightly mis-leading saying on this forum it is better, due to testing ( also I am sure lots of companies selling a product will say theirs is the best and THEIR test prove it!!)

[chillidog]

alex s said:

With no fans surely it will heat soak in non race conditions... eg, traffic.
Not sure how it can be said to be better than the Noblemods race IC, has that been tested along side the pro alloy one?? I am pretty sure Graham has not sold/lent one that has been tested by roush.
Not saying either is better, just slightly mis-leading saying on this forum it is better, due to testing ( also I am sure lots of companies selling a product will say theirs is the best and THEIR test prove it!!)

Alex

For clarification mine has 2 fans on it and they run all the time unless I remove their in-line fuse.

I have no experience of the Noblemods IC but I do have experience of the PA IC that so far works well on a car in race conditions with at times, higher inlet temperatures than standard.

I'm simply recommending the one that I know works rather than the one I haven't tested, hence the "AFAIK" bit in my post.

I've no vested interest in anyone buying any particular brand of IC.

I hope that's clear.
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Richard

[alex s]

chillidog said:

alex s said:

With no fans surely it will heat soak in non race conditions... eg, traffic.
Not sure how it can be said to be better than the Noblemods race IC, has that been tested along side the pro alloy one?? I am pretty sure Graham has not sold/lent one that has been tested by roush.
Not saying either is better, just slightly mis-leading saying on this forum it is better, due to testing ( also I am sure lots of companies selling a product will say theirs is the best and THEIR test prove it!!)

Alex

For clarification mine has 2 fans on it and they run all the time unless I remove their in-line fuse.

I have no experience of the Noblemods IC but I do have experience of the PA IC that so far works well on a car in race conditions with at times, higher inlet temperatures than standard.

I'm simply recommending the one that I know works rather than the one I haven't tested, hence the "AFAIK" bit in my post.

I've no vested interest in anyone buying any particular brand of IC.

I hope that's clear.
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Richard

Richard, my comments were more directed at Adrian's post, saying it HAS been tested against the NM one and is better.

[chillidog]

alex s said:

Richard, my comments were more directed at Adrian's post, saying it HAS been tested against the NM one and is better.

Ah, ok, sorry. My Internet wires got crossed .
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Richard

[mr2turbo300]

Hi all,
Couple of questions on this.....
1/ How easy is the pro alloy one to fit, easy DIY Job ?
2/ Do you need to do anything to the maps to make them work optimally. (Have seen something on the US site about making things run leaner)
3/ Anybody had experience of what insurance companies make of them (preferably MSM)

Cheers,
Rob.

[chillidog]

mr2turbo300 said:

Hi all,
Couple of questions on this.....
1/ How easy is the pro alloy one to fit, easy DIY Job ?
2/ Do you need to do anything to the maps to make them work optimally. (Have seen something on the US site about making things run leaner)
3/ Anybody had experience of what insurance companies make of them (preferably MSM)

Cheers,
Rob.

1. Dunno - someone else fitted it.
2. In my case Trevor said it didn't need a remap, but I've got a totally different map and Mountune engine. Best to ask Trevor.
3. You just tell the insurance company the truth and with the 3 companies I've used it's not a problem. None were MSM though.
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Richard

[adrian w]

alex s said:

With no fans surely it will heat soak in non race conditions... eg, traffic.
Not sure how it can be said to be better than the Noblemods race IC, has that been tested along side the pro alloy one?? I am pretty sure Graham has not sold/lent one that has been tested by roush.
Not saying either is better, just slightly mis-leading saying on this forum it is better, due to testing ( also I am sure lots of companies selling a product will say theirs is the best and THEIR test prove it!!)

Sorry didnt mean to mislead anyone but afaik all three units are the same Pace intercooler, i apologise if i'm wrong.

[twerlie]

The Proally unit must be better than the Faulks one as i bought the Faulks IC off Adrian as he was 'upgrading' to the Proally one! - he wouldn't down-grade!!!

If you put them next to each other you can see how much deeper and bigger the Proally one is; better in my opinion.

[adrian w]

chillidog said:

Adrian

Are you going to have to go for a CC to maintain your 600 bhp ?
--
Richard

I Hope Not, i suppose i'll find when it warms up, went to Pace to talk about CC before we spoke to PA but Pace wanted me to fund the development and then let them sell it...er no. The core in Pauls is the one i tested in the summer so we know it works well.

Regarding the I/C I remember in the summer i got some petrol and left the data logger on, Trevor might still have the file, i think it was 5 minutes, 25c ambient and the core temp only went up by 5 degrees(no fans)that convinced us it was a big jump forward.

[alex s]

twerlie said:

The Proally unit must be better than the Faulks one as i bought the Faulks IC off Adrian as he was 'upgrading' to the Proally one! - he wouldn't down-grade!!!

If you put them next to each other you can see how much deeper and bigger the Proally one is; better in my opinion.

I give up!!

The NobleMods Race IC is not the old FP core...do your homework, there is more than one product out there.

[twerlie]

alex s said:

twerlie said:

The Proally unit must be better than the Faulks one as i bought the Faulks IC off Adrian as he was 'upgrading' to the Proally one! - he wouldn't down-grade!!!

If you put them next to each other you can see how much deeper and bigger the Proally one is; better in my opinion.

I give up!!

The NobleMods Race IC is not the old FP core...do your homework, there is more than one product out there.

I didn't say it was! - I was talking about the Faulks unit so keep ya hair on and take a chill-pill dude!

Edited by twerlie on Thursday 29th March 01:19

[F.C.]

The Noble mods race Intercooler IS made by Pace.
F.C.

Edited by F.C. on Thursday 29th March 08:51

Edited by F.C. on Thursday 29th March 08:51

[ThatPhilBrettGuy]

F.C. said:

The Noble mods race Intercooler IS made by Pace.
F.C.

The Faulks one has a Pace core as well.

[ajg31]

I will not comment on the Noble IC's, but i can say i have bought an intercooler off them ( Pro Alloy)for my 300 BHP Fiat and the quality was great for the money. On my application it won hands dowwn over Pace (which made my old car laggy)

Edited by ajg31 on Monday 2nd April 22:06

[alex s]

Pro alloy get their core from Pace as well.