Help Please, Type Of Respray Advice Needed

[chris_uk]

Hi there, many thanks for taking the time to read my question, I have a 964 1994 3.6 Turbo, sometimes known as a 965.
My car needs a total exterior respray (stone chips, faded paint etc) I have had some people tell me that the best place to get the work done is through Porsche (guarentee etc as a bonus) however having spoken to Porsche, they say that their paint is now new paint and not the same as was originally on the car.
Please help, what do you think, any advice greatfully appreciated, Chris

[batman69]

i am no expert but i believe OPC's do not have their own painting facilities anymore, they out source to approved paint shops. I would source a reputable paintshop locally (they may even be porsche approved) and discuss what you would like to achieve with them. As with everything you get what you pay for but avoiding OPC mark up is a must. The local shop will be more expert at paint than an OPC in my opinion.

[vr6-er]

Clark & Carter in Braintree essex that is known for doing superb work. NineMeister perhaps, if you get 911 and porsche world and look at the article on the 964 RS replica, it details their repaints. I would not use an OPC for this.

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.

[Vesuvius 996]

Can't you get a good detailer to have a go first?

[freedman]

Vesuvius 996 said:

Can't you get a good detailer to have a go first?

Good shout, I've seen some complte sheds come out looking fantastic after proper paint correction

[chris_uk]

Hi guys, many thanks for your comments, I hope you can understand me being cautios, this is my pride and joy! plus of course should I wish to ever sell it in the future I am concerned that someone would possibly be worried about who carried it out. I suppose what I am really trying to ask is, when having a respray carried out and then selling the car, does the Porsche name on the documentation carry any weight? For example I only use Porsche parts on my car and keep all the reciepts etc so that should I ever sell it the purchaser could see that I had not tried to cut corners etc in relation to the work on the car, what do you guys think? many thanks Chris

[Vesuvius 996]

I think you should call Miracle Detail or someone like that.

They charge about £300 to do a full detail. I think there's a bloke on here who does it.

Why respray when taking off a few microns of old oxidised paint will make it look new!!

[cableguy]

Vesuvius 996 said:

Can't you get a good detailer to have a go first?

I'd also advise a good detailer to advise on the paint condition before going down the respray route, you may find that it needs less touching-in than you initially thought, and a lot cheaper than a re-paint.

I appreciate the car's age, however I think most buyer's would rather see well cared for original paintwork along with the usual stonechip area's having had some work.

Good luck in your decision.

C.

[Vesuvius 996]

cableguy said:

Vesuvius 996 said:

Can't you get a good detailer to have a go first?

I'd also advise a good detailer to advise on the paint condition before going down the respray route, you may find that it needs less touching-in than you initially thought, and a lot cheaper than a re-paint.

I appreciate the car's age, however I think most buyer's would rather see well cared for original paintwork along with the usual stonechip area's having had some work.

Good luck in your decision.

C.

A recent full repaint would but me right off.

A patina wouldn't.

[baSkey]

chris_uk said:

however having spoken to Porsche, they say that their paint is now new paint and not the same as was originally on the car.

are they somehow suggesting that now they'll only do waterbased paint resprays or something?

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it depends how rogered it is but i agree with the others surely it's better to get it 'detailed' () as a first step...

if you wanted to keep it ages maybe a respray is a good way to go in the longer term if the paint is bad at the moment, but if you want to sell any time soon it does suggest crash damage...

[chris_uk]

Thanks guys, It is past the detailing type of renovations (it really is) Rogered is a good way of describing the paintwork, Fortunately I do have all original panels etc (you can tell that by the metal finish etc underneath) I thought I could phograph the exterior and get Porsche or somone to vouch that the pictures were taken on that date as an extra precaution to someone thinking of accident damage as a reason for the respray. In relation to Porsche, they have changed the way the paint is applied evidently on newer cars. The original paint has a slight orange peel look to it, whereas all the later cars the paint finish is a totally smooth finish. hence the delima that I have. I was wondering for future purposes of course wether it is better to try and obtain the same as original finish or go with Porsche to have the Name and any potential recourse with a major company, what do you think? Thanks chris

[silver993tt]

Vesuvius 996 said:

cableguy said:

Vesuvius 996 said:

Can't you get a good detailer to have a go first?

I'd also advise a good detailer to advise on the paint condition before going down the respray route, you may find that it needs less touching-in than you initially thought, and a lot cheaper than a re-paint.

I appreciate the car's age, however I think most buyer's would rather see well cared for original paintwork along with the usual stonechip area's having had some work.

Good luck in your decision.

C.

A recent full repaint would but me right off.

A patina wouldn't.

Why? Paint technology has moved a long way since the early 90's. A professional respray at a specialist will leave the car looking in better shape than when it was new.

It would show you have taken care of the car, and that you have driven it. Driving the car regularly over the period of 15-16 years takes it's toll, especially on the front of the car.

I would ALWAYS choose a car that has fantastic paint whether original or not than a car full of chips an scratches but original paint.

A respray would show that you have spared no expense since a good job will cost alot.

I chose my 993tt over others because it had just had a complete front end respray and was light years ahead of the others which were heavily stone chipped. It saved me the hassle and cost (probably between £2-3k).

Would you choose a house that has never been maintained on the outside, with window frames (if wood) that haven't been painted for 16 years over one that has had it done every 5 years?

Edited by silver993tt on Friday 30th March 19:02

[chris_uk]

Thankyou, that's exactly what I was thinking about a respray, The sun bleached paint, stonechips, little scratches and marks mean that from a distance the car still looks shiny and good, however as soon as you get near you see all of the above.
In particular as in January I got caught in thick snow and had to follow a snow plough / gritter when driving down through spain has meant that the front end got even more peppered, plus I have the rust at the bottom of the windscreen which needs sorting too.
Anyone that bought the car would want a respray, that includes me by the way! so if I was to sell it, someone would automaticly knock me on any decent price also I am driving it with shoddy paintwork when I could be driving it looking new.
Someone said that original paintwork is best, yet I sold a 3.2 carrera Targa which had 6 stonechips only on the immaculate paintwork after 17 years and when I sold that it didn't fetch more money than if it had recieved a respray.
It does appear from all the kind people that have replied to my post, that the Porsche name on a respray does not count for much apart from the fact that it would cost me more than elsewhere, Is this correct please? thanks Chris

[POORCARDEALER]

Get a full glass out repaint done, proper job will be £5K, but a crap job will devalue the car.