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V6 inside

Original Poster:

105 posts

243 months

Monday 2nd April 2007
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Hello,

After chickening out of buying a GT3 i've decided the 996 turbo will be my first step into Porsche ownership.

I'm due to look at the 2002 52 Imperials have for sale on the weekend,
what do you guys think is a fair price for this car?
and approximate price i could ask for it in 6months time?

its a 2002 52 in Lapis Blue. Black sports interior.
21k miles
FPSH (incl 4th service)
5months warranty OPC
good tyres all round
6SP

due a service in 3months (not sure what is due after the major plug service?)

No PCM, no parking sensors.


thanks,



Wetwipe

3,019 posts

243 months

Monday 2nd April 2007
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what are imperials asking for the car?

no PCM on post 52 cars is a big factor and will make it hard to sell on.

as for the opc warranty - if imperials are selling the car then the warranty is void. porsche do not allow their warranty's to be transfered via non franchised dealers

freedman

6,018 posts

237 months

Monday 2nd April 2007
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Its up for £49,994

Nice colour but I think a touch overpriced (though I would like prices to rocket as I've just bought one!)

vipergreen

340 posts

259 months

Monday 2nd April 2007
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Wetwipe said:
what are imperials asking for the car?

no PCM on post 52 cars is a big factor and will make it hard to sell on.

as for the opc warranty - if imperials are selling the car then the warranty is void. porsche do not allow their warranty's to be transfered via non franchised dealers



I thought the warranty was only cancelled if the car went into the OPC network (so stop them preping the car for resale under warranty), after all if you made a claim how would they know where you brought the car from.

As for value I'd say 51/52 , if you offered it back to the trade in 6 months 45k

vipergreen

340 posts

259 months

Monday 2nd April 2007
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freedman said:
Its up for £49,994

Nice colour but I think a touch overpriced (though I would like prices to rocket as I've just bought one!)


well shows how generous I am

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

301 months

Monday 2nd April 2007
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Wetwipe said:
what are imperials asking for the car?

no PCM on post 52 cars is a big factor and will make it hard to sell on.

as for the opc warranty - if imperials are selling the car then the warranty is void. porsche do not allow their warranty's to be transfered via non franchised dealers


yes

Wot he sed.

The car has no Porsche warranty. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.


freedman

6,018 posts

237 months

Monday 2nd April 2007
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vipergreen said:
[quote=Wetwipe]what are imperials asking for the car?



As for value I'd say 51/52 , if you offered it back to the trade in 6 months 45k


I would think you're over estimating any trade bid by at least 5k

V6 inside

Original Poster:

105 posts

243 months

Monday 2nd April 2007
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Thanks for the response guys,

from searching the classifieds i was under the impression it was priced quite reasonably?

WRT the warranty situtation, is there anyway to 'circumnavigate' this problem


PS anyone selling a Turbo please get in touch asap,

cheers

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

301 months

Monday 2nd April 2007
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V6 inside said:
Thanks for the response guys,

from searching the classifieds i was under the impression it was priced quite reasonably?

WRT the warranty situtation, is there anyway to 'circumnavigate' this problem


PS anyone selling a Turbo please get in touch asap,

cheers


Buy a different car.

freedman

6,018 posts

237 months

Monday 2nd April 2007
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Vesuvius 996 said:
Wetwipe said:
what are imperials asking for the car?

no PCM on post 52 cars is a big factor and will make it hard to sell on.

as for the opc warranty - if imperials are selling the car then the warranty is void. porsche do not allow their warranty's to be transfered via non franchised dealers


yes

Wot he sed.

The car has no Porsche warranty. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

If the warranty transfer has been signed by the previous owner and Imperials have not registererd the car as theirs there will be a straight swap (between the two private owners) as far as Porsche are concerned



Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

301 months

Monday 2nd April 2007
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freedman said:
Vesuvius 996 said:
Wetwipe said:
what are imperials asking for the car?

no PCM on post 52 cars is a big factor and will make it hard to sell on.

as for the opc warranty - if imperials are selling the car then the warranty is void. porsche do not allow their warranty's to be transfered via non franchised dealers


yes

Wot he sed.

The car has no Porsche warranty. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

If the warranty transfer has been signed by the previous owner and Imperials have not registererd the car as theirs there will be a straight swap (between the two private owners) as far as Porsche are concerned






Oh come ON! There's a big engine claim. Say £20k. do you think that Porsche won't find out and refuse the claim?

freedman

6,018 posts

237 months

Monday 2nd April 2007
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How would the find out?

You send in the transfer of warranty docs signed by the last and current private owners, the dealer ends up as abroker effectively.

How would Porsche find out amd why would they even look?

V6 inside

Original Poster:

105 posts

243 months

Monday 2nd April 2007
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do you think Porsche will have access to the DVLA information database?

i'm not sure they do.
I will ask the salesman again if the previous customer has signed over the warranty

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

301 months

Monday 2nd April 2007
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freedman said:
How would the find out?

You send in the transfer of warranty docs signed by the last and current private owners, the dealer ends up as abroker effectively.

How would Porsche find out amd why would they even look?


Well, internet search engines can find anything very easily.

There is a quite specific term in the warranty which voids it if the car passes through a third party trader. This gives Porsche the right to refuse a claim where this has occurred - so for the sake of a ten minute search they save themselves £20k.

And another point, if you were to "blag it" and then successfuuly claim on the warranty for the £20k, you've Obtained Pecuniary Advantage by Deception, which is an offence of dishonesty which carries a long prison sentence.

Instead of risking it, why not just buy a car and get it inspected and warranted legally??

Porsche aren't daft. People who think they can have one over a multi billion pound organisation are.




Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Monday 2nd April 19:12

Vesuvius 996

35,829 posts

301 months

Monday 2nd April 2007
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V6 inside said:
do you think Porsche will have access to the DVLA information database?

i'm not sure they do.
I will ask the salesman again if the previous customer has signed over the warranty


www.dvla.gov.uk

Put in the reg no. It gives you make model and last change of keeper etc.

freedman

6,018 posts

237 months

Monday 2nd April 2007
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Vesuvius 996 said:
freedman said:
How would the find out?

You send in the transfer of warranty docs signed by the last and current private owners, the dealer ends up as abroker effectively.

How would Porsche find out amd why would they even look?


Well, internet search engines can find anything very easily.

There is a quite specific term in the warranty which voids it if the car passes through a third party trader. This gives Porsche the right to refuse a claim where this has occurred - so for the sake of a ten minute search they save themselves £20k.

And another point, if you were to "blag it" and then successfuuly claim on the warranty for the £20k, you've Obtained Pecuniary Advantage by Deception, which is an offence of dishonesty which carries a long prison sentence.

Instead of risking it, why not just buy a car and get it inspected and warranted legally??

Porsche aren't daft. People who think they can have one over a multi billion pound organisation are.




Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Monday 2nd April 19:12


Please explain how an internet search will let them know the car has passed via a third party?

and as said previosly when you send in the warranty Porsche approve it and issue you your own new policy etc so any discreprencies would come to light at registration not when you make a claim

Wetwipe

3,019 posts

243 months

Monday 2nd April 2007
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the opc warranty is nothing more than an insurance contract and soovy has pointed out the legal rammifications of knowingly breaching such a contract.

if pork were faced with a huge claim what would they do? yep ask for details and proof of purchase. they would be perfectly within their rights to do so to ensure you had not breached the doctorine of Utmost good faith, the legal basis upon which all insurance policies sit.

So you have a sick car in the garage, and you're asked for the sales receipt. what are you going to do forge one? ring the previous owner and ask him/her to be complicit in your fraud?

the above example is an extreeme situation BUT it could happen. there are plenty of other cars out there - get imperials to knock 500 quid off the price and get your own warranty.

freedman

6,018 posts

237 months

Monday 2nd April 2007
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Wetwipe said:
the opc warranty is nothing more than an insurance contract and soovy has pointed out the legal rammifications of knowingly breaching such a contract.

if pork were faced with a huge claim what would they do? yep ask for details and proof of purchase. they would be perfectly within their rights to do so to ensure you had not breached the doctorine of Utmost good faith, the legal basis upon which all insurance policies sit.

So you have a sick car in the garage, and you're asked for the sales receipt. what are you going to do forge one? ring the previous owner and ask him/her to be complicit in your fraud?

the above example is an extreeme situation BUT it could happen. there are plenty of other cars out there - get imperials to knock 500 quid off the price and get your own warranty.


So anyon ecare to tell me the last tiem Porsche asked for proof of purchase?

V6 inside

Original Poster:

105 posts

243 months

Monday 2nd April 2007
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Someone please tell me the last time a TT engine went bang!! lol

supermono

7,464 posts

278 months

Monday 2nd April 2007
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May I respectfully direct you...
www.pistonheads.com/sales/95709.htm

It has a proper warranty with no question marks and a new clutch etc...

SM