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Wildsea said:
Hi last night, i got told by a friend that, if you are a lone woman, in a car and you are pulled over by the police you can go furthur down a road to a garage or service station, as long as you acknowledge the police. Is this right?
I *think* you can always carry on to another "safer" place, or a police station, regardless of time / age / sex...but best to make it obvious first that you're not doing a runner. Perhaps stop, let them come to your window and explain that you're going to drive to xxxx
tigger1 said:
best to make it obvious first that you're not doing a runner. Perhaps stop, let them come to your window and explain that you're going to drive to xxxx
I wouldn't let them get that close tbh - I would have thought acknowledgement, sensible driving, and good indication to make it clear that you aren't doing a runner would be best?
"apparently" a young girl was driving recently, then followed by a car with lights but no siren. She rang 112 (fo local police) to explain that she would pull over in a service station 3 miles ahead. The guy on the phone tried to contact the car behind, but it wasn't the police so they told her to carry on and that back up was on the way. The police then suronded the vechile and stopped it. Turns ou he was a convicted rapist. Not sure of the truth behind the story, but i just wanted to check that we can do this.
Wildsea said:
"apparently" a young girl was driving recently, then followed by a car with lights but no siren. She rang 112 (fo local police) to explain that she would pull over in a service station 3 miles ahead. The guy on the phone tried to contact the car behind, but it wasn't the police so they told her to carry on and that back up was on the way. The police then suronded the vechile and stopped it. Turns ou he was a convicted rapist. Not sure of the truth behind the story, but i just wanted to check that we can do this.
Isn't 112 just the same as 999?
I think this one is urban legend, although I would say if it was unmarked to drive to the nearest busy area / petrol station(CCTV) / police station, or just call the police, if unsure.
tigger1 said:
I think this one is urban legend, although I would say if it was unmarked to drive to the nearest busy area / petrol station(CCTV) / police station, or just call the police, if unsure.
These days it's not even guaranteed to be a real policeman even if the car does appear to be marked.
tigger1 said:
Wildsea said:
"apparently" a young girl was driving recently, then followed by a car with lights but no siren. She rang 112 (fo local police) to explain that she would pull over in a service station 3 miles ahead. The guy on the phone tried to contact the car behind, but it wasn't the police so they told her to carry on and that back up was on the way. The police then suronded the vechile and stopped it. Turns ou he was a convicted rapist. Not sure of the truth behind the story, but i just wanted to check that we can do this.
Isn't 112 just the same as 999?
I think this one is urban legend, although I would say if it was unmarked to drive to the nearest busy area / petrol station(CCTV) / police station, or just call the police, if unsure.
And get three points and a £60 donation on top of everything else...
You are required to stop when required to do so by a police constable in uniform in either a marked or unmarked car.
That does not allow you to carry on till you decide its safe to stop.
The thing that is advised is to stop but lock your doors etc, wind the window down a bit and tell them what you are doing butleave yourself a passage of escape through driving.
If they are obviously not BiB then just go and call 999.
Or you can always call the police and they will confirm that it is a legitimate stop.
But whatever you do always acknowledge the attempt to stop. Dont attempt to get away or speed up or anything that can be looked as trying to get away or loose the vehicle as thats a sure way of finding out they are real when a whole host of marked cars descend on you and your tyres suddenly get deflated and your suddenly face down on tarmac in cuffs.
All in all be sensible about it and use common sense.
That does not allow you to carry on till you decide its safe to stop.
The thing that is advised is to stop but lock your doors etc, wind the window down a bit and tell them what you are doing butleave yourself a passage of escape through driving.
If they are obviously not BiB then just go and call 999.
Or you can always call the police and they will confirm that it is a legitimate stop.
But whatever you do always acknowledge the attempt to stop. Dont attempt to get away or speed up or anything that can be looked as trying to get away or loose the vehicle as thats a sure way of finding out they are real when a whole host of marked cars descend on you and your tyres suddenly get deflated and your suddenly face down on tarmac in cuffs.
All in all be sensible about it and use common sense.
^Slider^ said:
Yep you can always ask to see the warrant card to verify details. I would have no problem with that at all.
We've had this discussion on here before though. How many people would be able to tell the difference between a genuine one and a forged one?
*IF* the guy/gal got out of what appears to be a genuine, marked up police car, is wearing proper uniform (although that's getting harder to tell these days) and shows you what appears to be a 'proper' warrant card, than fair enough - if it swims like a duck and quacks like a duck then it most probably is a duck - chances are it's a genuine 'Stop'.
Umarked car, plain-clothes etc - might be a lot more cautious about the validity of a warrant card. If crims can forge bank cards, passports, driving licences etc - they sure as hell can knock up something to look like a warrant card. TBH, doesn't even take a crim - anyobne with a PC/printer/laminator could probably do it.
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BigBob said:
^Slider^ said:
Yep you can always ask to see the warrant card to verify details. I would have no problem with that at all.
We've had this discussion on here before though. How many people would be able to tell the difference between a genuine one and a forged one?
Although warrant cards vary somewhat between constabularies, it's likely that you will be presented with a black folding wallet containing a metal badge on one side - of the force to which the officer belongs - and a white card in a plastic sleeve with the following:
* photograph of the holder (a regular officer - including CID - will be photographed in uniform, 'specials' may be in civvies)
* the serial number of the card
* the officer's name
* the officer's rank
* the officer's warrant number (in the form: nn/nnnnnn) - this will match their collar number
* the officer's signature
* the Police Commissioner's/Chief Constable's signature
Lots of information there to authenticate the holder. Ideally, dial 999 and request a validation of the holder.
It's likely that the officer will not part with his card (especially if you are in the car), but should hold it for you to see and validate the details if required.
Streaky
Wildsea said:
Hi last night, i got told by a friend that, if you are a lone woman, in a car and you are pulled over by the police you can go furthur down a road to a garage or service station, as long as you acknowledge the police. Is this right?
The answer to your question is a simple. NO. Failing to stop is an offence.
streaky said:
Although warrant cards vary somewhat between constabularies, it's likely that you will be presented with a black folding wallet containing a metal badge on one side - of the force to which the officer belongs - and a white card in a plastic sleeve with the following:
* photograph of the holder (a regular officer - including CID - will be photographed in uniform, 'specials' may be in civvies)
* the serial number of the card
* the officer's name
* the officer's rank
* the officer's warrant number (in the form: nn/nnnnnn) - this will match their collar number
* the officer's signature
* the Police Commissioner's/Chief Constable's signature
* photograph of the holder (a regular officer - including CID - will be photographed in uniform, 'specials' may be in civvies)
* the serial number of the card
* the officer's name
* the officer's rank
* the officer's warrant number (in the form: nn/nnnnnn) - this will match their collar number
* the officer's signature
* the Police Commissioner's/Chief Constable's signature
The cards vary force to force; why there isn't one single standard nationwide is beyond me.
For example, my own warrant card has a photo of me in plain clothes, NOT uniform, there is no serial number, nor is my signature on it.
Additionally, in my force, warrant and colllar numbers do NOT match - it is just my collar number which is shown on the warrant card...
I've driven to a safe area - after been tailed by a Traffic car in the early hours on a very dark country road, i just reduced speed and put n/side indicator on - nothing was said( they just thought i looked out of place in such a nice car!!).
As an HGV Dangerous Goods Driver, in this world of terrorism etc, we have all been issued with information cards from the DOT , instructing us to phone 999 - if we are asked to stop by Plod or VOSA, and the control desk will confirm it's legite!!.
If you were that worried i'm sure you could do the same, after all your only acting as a concerned citizen - aren't you.
As an HGV Dangerous Goods Driver, in this world of terrorism etc, we have all been issued with information cards from the DOT , instructing us to phone 999 - if we are asked to stop by Plod or VOSA, and the control desk will confirm it's legite!!.
If you were that worried i'm sure you could do the same, after all your only acting as a concerned citizen - aren't you.
Edited by blueflash on Tuesday 10th April 01:32
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