PH bibs thoughts on this thread?
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www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?p=1&f=23&t=375518&h=0
Wondered what the law/legal angle might be on this?
Although it is extremely unlikely, if I find this website name etched into the paintwork on BG, having undergone a stupidly expensive repaint last year. I will be looking up the home names and addresses of the sites directors via companies house, and I will be having my revenge. Maybe within a legal framework, but then again, maybe not.
Wondered what the law/legal angle might be on this?
Although it is extremely unlikely, if I find this website name etched into the paintwork on BG, having undergone a stupidly expensive repaint last year. I will be looking up the home names and addresses of the sites directors via companies house, and I will be having my revenge. Maybe within a legal framework, but then again, maybe not.
Balmoral Green said:
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?p=1&f=23&t=375518&h=0
Wondered what the law/legal angle might be on this?
Although it is extremely unlikely, if I find this website name etched into the paintwork on BG, having undergone a stupidly expensive repaint last year. I will be looking up the home names and addresses of the sites directors via companies house, and I will be having my revenge. Maybe within a legal framework, but then again, maybe not.
Wondered what the law/legal angle might be on this?
Although it is extremely unlikely, if I find this website name etched into the paintwork on BG, having undergone a stupidly expensive repaint last year. I will be looking up the home names and addresses of the sites directors via companies house, and I will be having my revenge. Maybe within a legal framework, but then again, maybe not.
I think if anyone came into the Police station complaining tha someone had written something in the dirt on their car, they'd be shown the door.
If you're worried about someone doing it to yours, keep it clean.
R_U_LOCAL said:
I think if anyone came into the Police station complaining tha someone had written something in the dirt on their car, they'd be shown the door.
If you're worried about someone doing it to yours, keep it clean.
If you're worried about someone doing it to yours, keep it clean.
What if what they'd written was something offensive about porcine besties, say, and the vehicle was a Police car. Would they still be so complacent?
How about if it was the PMs Jag?
Two things.
1/ It is criminal damage. Fact, not point of view.
2/ It isn't just a one off that someone may/may not lodge a formal complaint about. What we have here is incitement to commit criminal damage, en masse.
If I found something written in the dirt on my car, and having washed it off, the paint was scratched, and it wouldnt polish out. I would be fuming. But the world is full of mindless scrotes, and I wouldn't expect the Police to spend any time or resources on it either, I wouldnt report it.
But this is something entirely different. This is a marketing campaign with an instigator, people who are going to cause damage to be done on purpose, not just some idiot writing stuff at random in the dirt.
1/ It is criminal damage. Fact, not point of view.
2/ It isn't just a one off that someone may/may not lodge a formal complaint about. What we have here is incitement to commit criminal damage, en masse.
If I found something written in the dirt on my car, and having washed it off, the paint was scratched, and it wouldnt polish out. I would be fuming. But the world is full of mindless scrotes, and I wouldn't expect the Police to spend any time or resources on it either, I wouldnt report it.
But this is something entirely different. This is a marketing campaign with an instigator, people who are going to cause damage to be done on purpose, not just some idiot writing stuff at random in the dirt.
Edited by Balmoral Green on Wednesday 4th April 17:07
Writing something in dirt is not criminal damage.
From reading that quote on the link, it appears to be urging visitors to write the sites name in dirt on cars, thus no incite to cause criminal damage.
A PIA i know but no offence.
If it was a panda or not then it still makes no difference. However, if something was to be written to cause harassment alarm or distress it may be a S5 public order offence by sign or visable representation.
If it was racist then it would be racially aggrivated.
From reading that quote on the link, it appears to be urging visitors to write the sites name in dirt on cars, thus no incite to cause criminal damage.
A PIA i know but no offence.
If it was a panda or not then it still makes no difference. However, if something was to be written to cause harassment alarm or distress it may be a S5 public order offence by sign or visable representation.
If it was racist then it would be racially aggrivated.
^Slider^ said:
Writing something in dirt is not criminal damage.
But scratching someones car whilst doing so surely is? Scratching someones car is criminal damage, no different to keying it.
I have seen stuff written in the dirt on a car, the writing is still there when the dirt is washed off, if polish or cutting compound won't remove it, it's surely criminal damage?
If we are talking about a white van, or a shed of a car, fair enough (although I dont see why the vehicle being a snotter should make it somehow OK anyway). But this could be done to a nice car, and scratch the paint.
Balmoral Green said:
^Slider^ said:
Writing something in dirt is not criminal damage.
But scratching someones car whilst doing so surely is? Scratching someones car is criminal damage, no different to keying it.
I have seen stuff written in the dirt on a car, the writing is still there when the dirt is washed off, if polish or cutting compound won't remove it, it's surely criminal damage?
If we are talking about a white van, or a shed of a car, fair enough (although I dont see why the vehicle being a snotter should make it somehow OK anyway). But this could be done to a nice car, and scratch the paint.
BG.
Agreed obviously if there is actual damage then it is criminal damage. But just writing in dirt is not. However if actual damage occurs then it will be an offence.
Again for the site its asking to write in dirt, if the reader causes damage **recklessly** to the vehicle by scratching it then its not the sites responsibility as it is the reader that goes on to commit the offence.
R_U_LOCAL said:
Balmoral Green said:
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?p=1&f=23&t=375518&h=0
Wondered what the law/legal angle might be on this?
Although it is extremely unlikely, if I find this website name etched into the paintwork on BG, having undergone a stupidly expensive repaint last year. I will be looking up the home names and addresses of the sites directors via companies house, and I will be having my revenge. Maybe within a legal framework, but then again, maybe not.
Wondered what the law/legal angle might be on this?
Although it is extremely unlikely, if I find this website name etched into the paintwork on BG, having undergone a stupidly expensive repaint last year. I will be looking up the home names and addresses of the sites directors via companies house, and I will be having my revenge. Maybe within a legal framework, but then again, maybe not.
I think if anyone came into the Police station complaining tha someone had written something in the dirt on their car, they'd be shown the door.
If you're worried about someone doing it to yours, keep it clean.
How about if someone came onto your property and started drawing on your windows in marker pen would you have the same opinion? i know its only a minor thing but it is still someones propery.
ninjaboy said:
R_U_LOCAL said:
Balmoral Green said:
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?p=1&f=23&t=375518&h=0
Wondered what the law/legal angle might be on this?
Although it is extremely unlikely, if I find this website name etched into the paintwork on BG, having undergone a stupidly expensive repaint last year. I will be looking up the home names and addresses of the sites directors via companies house, and I will be having my revenge. Maybe within a legal framework, but then again, maybe not.
Wondered what the law/legal angle might be on this?
Although it is extremely unlikely, if I find this website name etched into the paintwork on BG, having undergone a stupidly expensive repaint last year. I will be looking up the home names and addresses of the sites directors via companies house, and I will be having my revenge. Maybe within a legal framework, but then again, maybe not.
I think if anyone came into the Police station complaining tha someone had written something in the dirt on their car, they'd be shown the door.
If you're worried about someone doing it to yours, keep it clean.
How about if someone came onto your property and started drawing on your windows in marker pen would you have the same opinion? i know its only a minor thing but it is still someones propery.
This isn't to do with writing in marker pen - it's to do with writing in dirt. Like I said - if you're worried someone will do it to your car, keep it clean.
7db said:
R_U_LOCAL said:
I think if anyone came into the Police station complaining tha someone had written something in the dirt on their car, they'd be shown the door.
If you're worried about someone doing it to yours, keep it clean.
If you're worried about someone doing it to yours, keep it clean.
What if what they'd written was something offensive about porcine besties, say, and the vehicle was a Police car. Would they still be so complacent?
How about if it was the PMs Jag?
streaky said:
Agnostics and athiests would probably not get a look in unless they successfully argued that they were being adversely treated as a minority group.
Which country do you live in where agnostics and atheists are in minority?
Now if you want a minority you should be looking at drivers who are insured, taxed and MOT'd
Or what about such motorists who have clean license as well
Well my Discovery 3 is going to be scratched either way then! I do drive it off-road & tend not to clean it very often, so as not to attract the wrath of the misguided anti 4X4 brigade. You know, the ones who drive around in an old petrol Grand Voyager, sticking tickets on diesel 4X4's.
The large panels of the D3 would be great for writing stuff in the dirt. Clean it & I'll instantly become a "Chelsea Tractor" driver, who only uses it to block the roads outside a private school & popping down to Waitrose in!
My bad luck I suppose for wanting a vehicle that can seat 7 in comfort, tow a trailer, carry large stuff, not get stuck on farm tracks, fields & flooded lanes, averages 27mpg, is supremely comfy for my 6ft7" frame & is a great motorway cruiser.
Stuck in my office on a lovely day rant over.
The large panels of the D3 would be great for writing stuff in the dirt. Clean it & I'll instantly become a "Chelsea Tractor" driver, who only uses it to block the roads outside a private school & popping down to Waitrose in!
My bad luck I suppose for wanting a vehicle that can seat 7 in comfort, tow a trailer, carry large stuff, not get stuck on farm tracks, fields & flooded lanes, averages 27mpg, is supremely comfy for my 6ft7" frame & is a great motorway cruiser.
Stuck in my office on a lovely day rant over.
Edited by A57 HSV on Thursday 5th April 14:19
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