Looking To Begin A Website !!
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PassatFSI

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541 posts

242 months

Monday 9th April 2007
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Title says it all really ..

1 small problem .. havnt a clue how to start it or how to make layouts but its just something i would like to do.

Any help would be appreciated folks

Thanks
PassatFSI

ThePassenger

6,962 posts

266 months

Monday 9th April 2007
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What sort of website? Blog, e-commerce (i.e. sell stuff), or just a hello world type thing?

As an example, if you're just after a blog then the cheapest option would be to use Blogger, Typepad, Wordpress.com or any other blogging site (they'll provide templates) and generally speaking they work quite well for any volume of traffic.

If you want to self-host then again, you need to compare a few factors. Cost and your own ability to manage a system. Somewhere like Register 1 will happily sell you a hosting package and a domain name for a wee bit... they'll look after the machine for the most part and you're away. If you want uber-cheap then slapping a box on your DSL/Cable connection and wiring it up to somewhere like dyndns.org can work quite well (I've done it several times for backups and to allow remote SSH sessions).

But give us a better idea of what your after and we can point you in the right directions and prime you with the right questions to ask so you don't get taken for a ride.

PassatFSI

Original Poster:

541 posts

242 months

Monday 9th April 2007
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ThePassenger said:
What sort of website? Blog, e-commerce (i.e. sell stuff), or just a hello world type thing?

As an example, if you're just after a blog then the cheapest option would be to use Blogger, Typepad, Wordpress.com or any other blogging site (they'll provide templates) and generally speaking they work quite well for any volume of traffic.

If you want to self-host then again, you need to compare a few factors. Cost and your own ability to manage a system. Somewhere like Register 1 will happily sell you a hosting package and a domain name for a wee bit... they'll look after the machine for the most part and you're away. If you want uber-cheap then slapping a box on your DSL/Cable connection and wiring it up to somewhere like dyndns.org can work quite well (I've done it several times for backups and to allow remote SSH sessions).

But give us a better idea of what your after and we can point you in the right directions and prime you with the right questions to ask so you don't get taken for a ride.


Much The Same As www.philh.co.uk/

Generally For Images & Something To Keep Up To Date With

TimDarracott

1,138 posts

252 months

Monday 9th April 2007
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First you'll need a domain name and hosting, i'd look into that first.

ThePassenger

6,962 posts

266 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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PassatFSI said:
Much The Same As www.philh.co.uk/

Generally For Images & Something To Keep Up To Date With


Ok. If you want cheapy cheapy then Flickr and Blogger will pretty much do the job; although not be as integrated... Yahoo360 seems to be the 'all-in-one' solution.

Next up is DIY hosting off your DSL/Cable connection. It's perfectly possible but tends to be rather slow (upstream bandwidth). To do this and be like phil's site you'll need a machine, preferably some flavour of L.A.M.P (Linux.Apache.MySQL.PHP) distro choice is whoever floats your boat, and then Gallery2 to do the picture things (Phil is using static HTML for the first page and links page, piss easy and 30s work ). Grab a freebie account off dyndns, pick a sutible domain name and bosh. Done. You can install some auto-update software on the server to touch dyndns every few days or do it yourself when they send bitchy e-mails about expiry

After that your looking at commercial hosting like Jamie's lot at reg1; I suspect Gallery2 will be a installable app from their frontend control panel. Costs a bit more but you do end up with out the agro of looking after your own machine and as a bonus you get your own puka domain name that's yours


Templates really only come in to it when your using a dynamic site which is pulling content from a database 'somewhere'; blogs, portals and ecomm sites. For a 5 page site with a gallery behind it I'd just use something like NVU or some other free WYSIWIG HTML creator, do the first page and then cut n' paste the other pages in.

JamieBeeston

9,294 posts

296 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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TimDarracott said:
First you'll need a domain name and hosting, i'd look into that first.


You know where to come for that Three sold to PH'rs already today!


ThePassenger said:

After that your looking at commercial hosting like Jamie's lot at reg1; I suspect Gallery2 will be a installable app from their frontend control panel. Costs a bit more but you do end up with out the agro of looking after your own machine and as a bonus you get your own puka domain name that's yours


Gallery2 is indeed provided with the VDS Pro, as is the easy to use control panel, the free domains, and the hosting from just £5.50 a month beer

Seriously, check out my profile, then click the banner up top.

J

gfwilliams

4,949 posts

238 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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I chose Streamline.net for hosting and domain name, £25 a year - email included.

here is my website - GFWilliams.org.uk
I made this myself in Front Page 2000

Kinky

39,945 posts

300 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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JamieBeeston said:
TimDarracott said:
First you'll need a domain name and hosting, i'd look into that first.

You know where to come for that Three sold to PH'rs already today!


Make that 4

Arif110

794 posts

245 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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Check out www.moonfruit.co.uk

And check out their website for examples of what you can do with it.

Extremely inexpensive, extremely versatile and powerful.

Some of mine...

Mods' please delete if this is a prob... (only one is a business)

www.changeyourlightbulbs.info
www.lucentlens.co.uk
www.beyond-expectations.co.uk
www.volunteeringbelize.com
www.cafemasti.com


I really don't see why people (who can't code/program) do anything else, when their needs and budget are basic.

I just went for their top package - and can do as many websites as I want - and yes - hosting included.

Their servers are as reliable as you would wish, for the purpose intended. They're good enough for business purposes too, as long as you're not a corporation or something - in which case (IMO) you're in Register 1 territory.



My penny's-worth.

Kinky

39,945 posts

300 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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Arif110 said:
They're good enough for business purposes too, as long as you're not a corporation or something - in which case (IMO) you're in Register 1 territory.



Most of their packages are more expensive than Register 1, and less space, etc.

I use Register 1 for all my private stuff - of which I have about 12 sites or so (I think - lost count).

K

Arif110

794 posts

245 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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Kinky said:
Arif110 said:
They're good enough for business purposes too, as long as you're not a corporation or something - in which case (IMO) you're in Register 1 territory.



Most of their packages are more expensive than Register 1, and less space, etc.

I use Register 1 for all my private stuff - of which I have about 12 sites or so (I think - lost count).

K


Yes - but then the Register 1 price you're thinking of, doesn't include a website-making program, I assume. At Moonfruit - it's not just hosting you're paying for - but an award-winning web-design program (for amateurs/non-coders) on top of that.