Tyre compound

Tyre compound

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stainless_steve

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6,031 posts

259 months

Sunday 4th May 2003
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Just been out playing in the car,in the dry the car holds the road well,in the wet its better to walk
the rear tyres are Yokohama 245 16 45 zr 94y(look like grooved slicks in the middle)
the fronts Pirelli 245 16 45 zr 94y
Is 94y the compound , is this a soft tyre or a hard one?
Is there any better tyre for dry use (dont take her out in the wet usually)
open to all suggestions


Steve

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Sunday 4th May 2003
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I use Bridgstone's...SO3 but eat them at 3000 miles a set on the rear. But its grip city dry and wet. I find they give plenty of warning before letting go.
I did have a set of Yoko's put on when I bought it and they were scary and got rid of them sharpish as they were prone to swapping the direction in the wet. They were an old version and I suspect they were on the back shelf of the shop for a while, until muggins came along. Considering others if there are cheaper options with decent grip.

stainless_steve

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6,031 posts

259 months

Sunday 4th May 2003
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jmorgan said: I use Bridgstone's...SO3 but eat them at 3000 miles a set on the rear. But its grip city dry and wet. I find they give plenty of warning before letting go.
I did have a set of Yoko's put on when I bought it and they were scary and got rid of them sharpish as they were prone to swapping the direction in the wet. They were an old version and I suspect they were on the back shelf of the shop for a while, until muggins came along. Considering others if there are cheaper options with decent grip.


Thanks Jeff, but is the 3000 miles driving normalish or thrashing it?

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Sunday 4th May 2003
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Thrashing it? Moi? oh no no no no no.....Yes

Not sure really, Steve Heath's beasty is worse but thats different.
I am mindful to try to be less enthusiastic with the throttle but sometimes, what the hell. Around £200 a set so its not so bad but seems a silly rate to wear out.
Any other 400 owners using them? Not sure what a SEAC will do to them?


Edited to add, normal driving for me....I think.

>> Edited by jmorgan on Sunday 4th May 21:58

stainless_steve

Original Poster:

6,031 posts

259 months

Sunday 4th May 2003
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jmorgan said: Thrashing it? Moi? oh no no no no no.....Yes

Not sure really, Steve Heath's beasty is worse but thats different.
I am mindful to try to be less enthusiastic with the throttle but sometimes, what the hell. Around £200 a set so its not so bad but seems a silly rate to wear out.
Any other 400 owners using them? Not sure what a SEAC will do to them?


Edited to add, normal driving for me....I think.

>> Edited by jmorgan on Sunday 4th May 21:58


So i will take that as thrashing the f@ck out of it , and they last 3000 miles that sounds ok, think mine cost more than £200 a set though

richa

534 posts

285 months

Sunday 4th May 2003
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Don't laugh too much, but I'm really impressed with the Khumo's that I put on recently. I've had both Michelin and Pirelli in the past, and the Khumo's seem much better in the dry (really have to abuse it to get the back out on r'abouts and junctions), still pretty scary in the wet though (although I think it will take more than tyres to cure that!!!).

At £250 for four, you can't go wrong (don't know how long they last though, I've only done 800 miles on them so far...)

Richa.

broadside

856 posts

283 months

Monday 5th May 2003
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Richa, Keep us posted on the khumos, I nearly bought a pair for the rears of the 450 but put TOYOs on instead. Grip well in dry and are quite good it the wet as long as you have the traction control activated (lightweight trainers as opposed to lead diving boots).

Will not matter what tyres you have on the back, will still get wheelspin in 2nd and 3rd in the wet with that much power.

Yours broadsidin around roundabouts

Nige'

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Tuesday 6th May 2003
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Slippery when wet.
Which is why I may stick with the SO3's. For the wet that is. They stick.
On the 350 I used Goodyears and had a few scary moments in the wet and expected a worse experiance with the 400. But when I fitted the SO3's it was a complete suprise. Power down and no @rse end out antics.

Still interested in other makes and how they perform.

350matt

3,740 posts

280 months

Tuesday 6th May 2003
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has anyone used Goodyear eagle F1's as I can get these in 60 profile for 55 quid each?

Matt

swilly

9,699 posts

275 months

Tuesday 6th May 2003
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I used Yoko A359's (or is it A539?) on my chim, did 18k hard miles before needing a change.Excellent.

19560

12,722 posts

259 months

Wednesday 7th May 2003
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I use Goodyear F1 GS-D3s and believe that they are the best currently available. I also have various other sets of tyres: S02PP very good all round and only bettered by the D3s (I think that jmorgan must have had the D2s, a different tyre). A539s, good in the dry but not in the wet (I lost grip in the rain last week under acceleration, braking and cornering at speeds that wouldn't have troubled the S02pps or the D3s.) I haven't tried Toyos but they are getting very good reports. Cheers
Jonathan

19560

12,722 posts

259 months

Wednesday 7th May 2003
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PS if you want a really quick tyre try the Yoko A048; unfortunately that applies to tyre life as well - I'd say you'll do well to get 1000 miles.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Wednesday 7th May 2003
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19560 said: I use Goodyear F1 GS-D3s


Hmm local tyre shop could only quote the D2 at £97 each, around the same as SO3.
Need a pair soon....

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2 other calls and quotes of SO3 158 and 168 and F1 149 and 176. @*£king ell....

>> Edited by jmorgan on Wednesday 7th May 17:19

19560

12,722 posts

259 months

Wednesday 7th May 2003
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Those prices do seem rather high. Phone round a bit more and use a mail order firm if necessary. Don't go for the D2, it's a very different tyre; I had to order my D3s specially but they only took 24hrs to arrive. (Prices do nudge up a fair bit for 17".) Good luck,
Jonathan

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Wednesday 7th May 2003
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Last two were for the D3. The people I normally use quoted the 97 but didn't have the D3 on the system yet. Nice bunch that won't charge me labour to rotate the tyres....btw steep drive and small garage means its easier to ask them nicely. Anyhow where next.....