These Purple F*****g Hoses ! Help !!
These Purple F*****g Hoses ! Help !!
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jensena

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5,671 posts

260 months

Friday 20th April 2007
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Just had a week of 'fettling' - New Wiper motor Park switch, new Big Fuse and Big Fuse Holder - a bar steward of a job by the way, there is just enough room to get get one hand down there, but you need one hand to hold the cables out of the way, another hand to hold the torch to shine the light down the gap, another hand to hold the spanner and your fourth hand to hold open the top of the fuse holder so you can get the spanner on the nut.

Anyway everything is now back together, apart from the Purple hoses on the passenger side bank. I have just spent an hour pushing one of them on, then started on the second one, but as I pushed and pulled to get the the second one on, the first one popped back off. Before I carry on, is there some special technique, or is it just one of those pigs of job?

byker28i

91,751 posts

247 months

Friday 20th April 2007
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How hard was it to change the wiper switch thing. It's on my list of jobs.

jensena

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5,671 posts

260 months

Friday 20th April 2007
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Just a bit fiddly Dave - hardest bit is undoing the bottom hose on the coolant tank, it's easier if you remove the battery, a fairly easy Saturday afternoon job.

byker28i

91,751 posts

247 months

Friday 20th April 2007
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P.S. so glad I've got a 4.2

dempsey

297 posts

240 months

Friday 20th April 2007
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Get the Trackcar Whirlwind induction upgrade and loose those nasty looking purple hoses altogether (oh, and gain another 40 bhp).

jensena

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5,671 posts

260 months

Friday 20th April 2007
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Dempsey - Thais exactly what I've been thinking. Have you done it? If you have is it worth it?

jensena

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5,671 posts

260 months

Saturday 21st April 2007
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Got them back on now - it was me being a numpty, tired after a long week, and too eager to get the car back together again. I had numbered them 1,2,3,4 but was fitting them to 4,3,2,1 Doh !

betty_swallocks

199 posts

244 months

Saturday 21st April 2007
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jensena said:
Got them back on now - it was me being a numpty, tired after a long week, and too eager to get the car back together again. I had numbered them 1,2,3,4 but was fitting them to 4,3,2,1 Doh !

laugh

byker28i

91,751 posts

247 months

Saturday 21st April 2007
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I did that with the plug leads on my old capri once - numbered them 1-6 but mentally numbered them back to front.

No wonder it didn't start!

dempsey

297 posts

240 months

Saturday 21st April 2007
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Alan,
Got the car back from Trackcar a week or so ago.
Silverstone Performance backbox (not part of the scheduled upgrade but Joo found my box knackered), linked decats, short induction hoses (which look great too), and remap.
Picked up 40-50 bhp. Just as impressive was the power curve which started out like a flight of stairs with a couple of landings and ended up like a steep ski lift. Lost the uneven running at 3000rpm and lack of pickup between 3000 and 3500rpm. Just a surge throughout the whole range now.
Great result, great guy and great value; thoroughly recommended.

byker28i

91,751 posts

247 months

Saturday 21st April 2007
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So everyone thinks the whirlwind induction is worthwhile - apart from me. How will I keep up with Alan if he has that done

V8Cerbera

1,220 posts

239 months

Sunday 22nd April 2007
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byker28i said:
So everyone thinks the whirlwind induction is worthwhile - apart from me. How will I keep up with Alan if he has that done


We got short(er) induction as standard

Those purple hoses were a great idea as a "showing off" / "looking flash" type thing, but really, utterly pointless from a performance point of view.

Another point - Any idea why us 4.2 owners got treated to 32 valves but the 4.5's only got 16? [me]has visions of a cerbie with one of those chav 16V vinyls that normally adorn vauxhall corsas...<shudder>[/me]

jensena

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5,671 posts

260 months

Sunday 22nd April 2007
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byker28i said:
So everyone thinks the whirlwind induction is worthwhile - apart from me. How will I keep up with Alan if he has that done


Just carry on rubbing my nose in it and telling me how it never goes wrong Dave - But in all seriousness, after having both a 4.2 and a 4.5, I still think in standard form the 4.2 is the quicker
car, so unless you are willing to spend nearly a grand on an Induction kit and a remap, there is really no point having a preference for a 4.5.

Cyclone1

2,614 posts

276 months

Sunday 22nd April 2007
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jensena said:
byker28i said:
So everyone thinks the whirlwind induction is worthwhile - apart from me. How will I keep up with Alan if he has that done


Just carry on rubbing my nose in it and telling me how it never goes wrong Dave - But in all seriousness, after having both a 4.2 and a 4.5, I still think in standard form the 4.2 is the quicker
car, so unless you are willing to spend nearly a grand on an Induction kit and a remap, there is really no point having a preference for a 4.5.


Except for the fact that the 4.5 will then be considerably quicker, closer to it's originally quoted spec and it will shut up the tight arsed couldn't be bothered to spend that little bit extra 4.2 owners, who think they have the better car......

Jules.

GreenV8S

31,018 posts

314 months

Sunday 22nd April 2007
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V8Cerbera said:
Another point - Any idea why us 4.2 owners got treated to 32 valves but the 4.5's only got 16? [me]has visions of a cerbie with one of those chav 16V vinyls that normally adorn vauxhall corsas...<shudder>[/me]


Are you thinking of the 24 valve S6 engines?

copilot

243 posts

240 months

Sunday 22nd April 2007
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Just spent the weekend in the Lake District with a major problem with the car only running on one bank. Stood and watched the AA man struggling refitting the hoses after being no help at all. So just stood and watched... hilarious. Simple mind I know but was a funny end to a shitty day.


Edited by copilot on Sunday 22 April 17:58

trackcar

6,453 posts

256 months

Sunday 22nd April 2007
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jensena said:
byker28i said:
So everyone thinks the whirlwind induction is worthwhile - apart from me. How will I keep up with Alan if he has that done


Just carry on rubbing my nose in it and telling me how it never goes wrong Dave - But in all seriousness, after having both a 4.2 and a 4.5, I still think in standard form the 4.2 is the quicker
car, so unless you are willing to spend nearly a grand on an Induction kit and a remap, there is really no point having a preference for a 4.5.



thankfully there's no shortage of people wanting to do just that .. remember 1000 pounds in rover V8 tuning might get you 15-20hp if you're lucky .. on cerbie 4.5 you could be looking at 50hp! a grand is a lot of money in anyone's book, but compared to the hp you gain from other cars for teh same price it's fantastic value! Let's put it this way : no-one has asked for their car to be put back to std again afterwards

byker28i

91,751 posts

247 months

Sunday 22nd April 2007
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A standard 4.5 is certainly no quicker than a 4.2 from standing start. I met a silver one at the lights tonight and we both went for it. I had too much wheel spin but we were both evenly matched accelerating hard.

Trouble is I had the missus in the car. My ears still getting bent

byker28i

91,751 posts

247 months

Sunday 22nd April 2007
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Oh and back to the pipes - I'll agree, 40-50bhp for a grand and minor work is cheap performance in anyones money.

V8Cerbera

1,220 posts

239 months

Sunday 22nd April 2007
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GreenV8S said:
V8Cerbera said:
Another point - Any idea why us 4.2 owners got treated to 32 valves but the 4.5's only got 16? [me]has visions of a cerbie with one of those chav 16V vinyls that normally adorn vauxhall corsas...<shudder>[/me]


Are you thinking of the 24 valve S6 engines?


No mate. I'm thinking of this:

www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=30525&TVR-specifications
Viewing specifications of TVR Cerbera 4.2
Engine

Code AJP8
Manufacturer TVR

Type
V-8
in 75.0° vee
DOHC
32 valves total
4 valves per cylinder


Bore/Stroke ratio 1.02
Displacement 4185 cc(255.384 cu in)

Fuel system EFi
Aspiration Normal

www.carfolio.com/specifications/models/car/?car=30514&TVR-specifications
Viewing specifications of 1997 TVR Cerbera 4.5
Engine

Code AJP8
Manufacturer TVR

Type
V-8 in 75.0° vee
SOHC
16 valves total
2 valves per cylinder


Displacement 4475 cc(273.081 cu in)
Unitary capacity 559.38 cc/cylinder

Fuel system SFi
Aspiration Normal