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Jim Campbell

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445 posts

251 months

Monday 23rd April 2007
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Nick Heidfeld is driving his GP car around the Nordschleife this week end. Any predictions for lap times? I think it will be under 6 min mark. This will be the second crazy F1 record that Heidfeld has. Along with the record for the hill at Goodwood.

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Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Monday 23rd April 2007
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I hope it's being recorded.

Will it get airborne at Flugplatz?

freedman

6,015 posts

236 months

Monday 23rd April 2007
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Its a publicity stunt, I guess lotsbof stop starts along the way, dont see him trying for the record

jacobyte

4,768 posts

271 months

Monday 23rd April 2007
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freedman said:
Its a publicity stunt, I guess lotsbof stop starts along the way, dont see him trying for the record

I don't think he'll need to try for the record in order to break 6.11. If they can fund a decent soft setup, it'll need no special effort to achieve it.

I imagine he won't get airborne, he'll have so much downforce. Viewing the film would be interesting, as would the data chart of revs/brakes/steering/speed.

2priestsferrari

534 posts

234 months

Tuesday 24th April 2007
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I don't think he'll go for the record...too much to loose for BMW if it goes all pear shaped!!!

MrKipling43

5,788 posts

245 months

Tuesday 24th April 2007
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2priestsferrari said:
I don't think he'll go for the record...too much to loose for BMW if it goes all pear shaped!!!


Yeah a confettied F1 car at a publicity stunt is not great for the ol' corporate image!

flemke

23,481 posts

266 months

Tuesday 24th April 2007
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There would be some logistics involved if they were to have to change the circuit from VLN configuration (NS plus upper half of GP) to NS only.
Putting that to one side, I'd guess that Nick could break 6 minutes but not break a sweat. In light of how different a modern F1 car is from everything else that runs on the NS, one could understand, however, why Nick might want a few practice laps beforehand, and perhaps the need for that would make a timed run infeasible.

Eifel_Yeti

80 posts

261 months

Tuesday 24th April 2007
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Laprecord pros according to Yeti logic :
- because they can
- The demonstration is scheduled to last an hour
- Heidfeld seems to have a personal affection for the Nordschleife

Laprecord cons
- Demonstration starts 30 minutes after programmed race finish, this hardly seems enough time to get the track in topcondition required for record run.
And hard to predict what will happen with schedule in case of red flag as happens regularly.
- tracklayout needs to be changed.
This needs to be done for TF anyway but it is hard to imagine they would leave the F1 grandstands and pitlane in the cold.

Regardless the Yeti will be in the trackside bushes with his camera

atomicrex

862 posts

256 months

Tuesday 24th April 2007
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I hope he, like us, has to deal with Coaches, British Bikers (only the ones that don't use their mirrors!) and caterhams whose cables keep snapping!

HONEYMON57ER

562 posts

239 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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Video will be shown here

www.bmw-sauber-f1.com/en/index.html

zac510

5,546 posts

235 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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MrKipling43 said:
2priestsferrari said:
I don't think he'll go for the record...too much to loose for BMW if it goes all pear shaped!!!


Yeah a confettied F1 car at a publicity stunt is not great for the ol' corporate image!


I reckon a canoed one is more likely to get onto the evening news!

jcas

262 posts

273 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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From autosport.com:

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Nick Heidfeld admits he is disappointed he will not be allowed to show his speed when he tackles Nurburgring's legendary Nordschleife circuit next Saturday.

The BMW Sauber driver will be the man in charge of driving a Formula One car for the first time in 31 years around the 22-km historic track, in an event organised by BMW Motorsport.

Heidfeld will use this year's F1.07 car, but fitted with Bridgestone demonstration tyres, which are about 10 seconds slower than those used in the races.

The German admits he feels sorry he will not be allowed to go for it.

"BMW doesn't want me to go that fast ­ they are a bit worried about the circuit," said Heidfeld. "But I am a racing driver - I cannot go slow! I'm looking forward to it but I'm disappointed I have to use Bridgestone demonstration tyres.

"When we ran them in Melbourne, they were about 10 seconds a lap slower than regular tyres. Obviously, there's no grip.

"I don't know the track well but I know it. I've driven it a few times in a normal road car and I've played it a bit on the computer. I never did a race there so I'm not an expert at all.

"I'm really looking forward to it ­ it's going to be fantastic. But again, I would like to have normal tyres."

Despite knowing he will not be allowed to drive as fast as he can, Heidfeld says he is really eager to enjoy the experience.

"I just like the idea of driving on such a fantastic track, he added. "And I like driving in strange places ­ I drove on ice over the
winter. So it's fun to do something different. The Pitlane Park is pretty cool.

"And sometimes we do pitstop demos on the street. I just like the idea of going to strange places with a Formula One car."

hammerwerfer

3,234 posts

269 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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I would imagine that he will be doing the VLN course, as the VIPs will most likely be esconced in the garage top suites or a marquee somewhere in the main paddock.

Jungles

3,587 posts

250 months

Friday 27th April 2007
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Heidfeld said:
But I am a racing driver - I cannot go slow!
Classic! rofl Good to see he has the spirit of the classic F1 era.

Why doesn't BMW give him last year's car, proper tyres, and let him go as fast as he wants? A cool cockpit video of a modern F1 car gunning it around the Nord will surely boost their corporate image? I'm not worried about Heidfield smashing it - you don't get to be an F1 driver if you aren't good enough to do a demo lap in one piece, no matter the circuit.

Edited by Jungles on Friday 27th April 13:12

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 27th April 2007
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He would kill himself going for Bellofs time with the lack of knowledge he has of the circuit. It's not a game trying to obtain that kind of laptime on such a dangerous circuit for a single seater as the Nordshliefe.

jacobyte

4,768 posts

271 months

Saturday 28th April 2007
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It had much higher ride height, and slowed a lot for photographs, among other inhibitors. That was probably to ensure no lap records were in jeopardy.

8.34 for a VLN lap, which would equate to just under 7 minutes for the NS.

olf

11,978 posts

247 months

Saturday 28th April 2007
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Despite unusually hard demonstration tyres and short transmission ratio, Heidfeld notched up a top speed of 275 km/h on the long straight called the "Döttinger Höhe". The second lap was his fastest lap and took 8:34 minutes. A camera car took shots of the 29-year-old on some sections of all three laps and Heidfeld slowed down for the photo calls.

E38

736 posts

242 months

Sunday 29th April 2007
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Bah!

beyond rational

3,544 posts

244 months

Sunday 29th April 2007
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did he always slow in the same place or can a more accurate potential time be pieced together from the different runs?

Jungles

3,587 posts

250 months

Sunday 29th April 2007
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Ah well, disappointing but not unexpected.

In the thread in General Gassing, I calculated roughly 7:05 for the Nord track alone, by subtracting Schumacher's GP lap record from Heidfeld's total time.