Provisional Car licence at 16
Provisional Car licence at 16
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chrispy porker

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17,733 posts

258 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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My son is disabled and will be 16 in September.
The DSS say he can obtain a provisional licence at 16 rather than 17 and commence driving lessons in a car at 16, as he receives disability living allowance.
Anyone ever heard of this before? I know he could ride a moped but we are talking about a car.
I admit I never have.
But frankly the idea of him driving a car at 16 even with an instructor gives me worries. I guess if it is true, it is to allow him longer to take lessons before his test.

Any one with a better knowledge of licensing care to comment?

blueyes

4,799 posts

282 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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Yes it's true.
Friend of mine has a disabled son and he started driving at 16.
Don't worry too much, he has been accident free for 7 seven years.

who me ?

7,455 posts

242 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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It's on the direct.gov site --sorry link is a bit big

www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensing/WhatCanYouDriveAndYourObligations/DG_4022547

Group B/B1
*Age 16 if you are currently getting Disability Living Allowance at the higher rate (mobility component)

chrispy porker

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Wednesday 25th April 2007
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Note to self:
Start hiding Porsche keys in September.......

slowly slowly

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254 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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chrispy porker said:
Note to self:
Start hiding Porsche keys in September.......



If he's anything like my lad he's probably already been out in it, my sons mistake was when he came back he parked it nose in, I never do that.

chrispy porker

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Wednesday 25th April 2007
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Actually I might ask for a quote for him to drive it, as a learner at 16. Might be good for a laugh. I've got some L plates around somewhere....

WildCat

8,369 posts

273 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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chrispy porker said:
My son is disabled and will be 16 in September.
The DSS say he can obtain a provisional licence at 16 rather than 17 and commence driving lessons in a car at 16, as he receives disability living allowance.




Anyone ever heard of this before? I know he could ride a moped but we are talking about a car.
I admit I never have.





I think he can.. but he cannot sit test until aged 17 years. Ist a bit like the current idea to allow the kids to drive but not take test until 18 years .. which ist the case in a few but not all EU neighbours.


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But frankly the idea of him driving a car at 16 even with an instructor gives me worries. I guess if it is true, it is to allow him longer to take lessons before his test.

Any one with a better knowledge of licensing care to comment?[/quote]


If you think he will be safe und sound .. then there should be no question und he should have your support - if he want to learn to drive yet.

If you think he will not cope.. then hold off und let him prove to you he ist capable. Ist an incentive.

My Papa made me prove I had decent road sense und knowledge of a car's "anatomy" und "general internal combustion engine functions" before he would fund lessons und be "brave" enough to have teaching drive with me. I have to say my Papa was a strict teacher und make policeman as "back seat driver" seem like a very tame cuddly pet kitten

eltax91

10,779 posts

236 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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chrispy porker said:
Actually I might ask for a quote for him to drive it, as a learner at 16. Might be good for a laugh. I've got some L plates around somewhere....


Do you mind me asking if you will need to modify the car in any way to enable him to drive it?

A friend of mine who has been disabled from birth started to learn at 16 as he needed extra time to familiarise himself with hand controls rather than foot controls.

It's also worth noting that he went away to a specialist disabled driver training course every weekend for about 10 months! This has made him the best driver i have ever seen. He drove a few cheap cars to build up NCB and now has a fully modified 911 Turbo! He has never crashed, or been crashed into in 7 years of driving.

Not sure what the place was called, i'll call him tonight and see if he has any details.

tigger1

8,478 posts

251 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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Able to sit test at 16 if on higher rate disability living allowance. One of my friend's siblings did a few years back. Don't see any problem with it - IF he is sensible, and not "lead" by friends into doing stupid things, or being their chauffer[sp?]

RaksP

760 posts

234 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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yes he can start learning at 16. he can also use his allowance to obtain a brand spanking new car through the charity Motability www.motability.co.uk/

pics of some adapted ferrari's!!

www.jeffgosling.co.uk/HandControls/f.html


Edited by RaksP on Thursday 26th April 11:19

eltax91

10,779 posts

236 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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RaksP said:
yes he can start learning at 16. he can also use his allowance to obtain a brand spanking new car through the charity Motability www.motability.co.uk/

pics of some adapted ferrari's!!

www.jeffgosling.co.uk/HandControls/f.html


Edited by RaksP on Thursday 26th April 11:19


Some good website links there. A word of warning, mind... Be very careful not to use motability money on a car if the figures don't stack up. My grandmother signed 3 year motability deal, when she could have done a finance deal on the same car for considerably less. (Taking into account a small deposit, of course).

j500ant

3,103 posts

269 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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He can take his test age 16 - just being able to learn would give him no benefit of that extra year, and Motability will lease him a car but only one up to a certain insurance group (8 iirc) unless he needs something else thats more suitable for his mobility needs and in a slightly higher insurance bracket.

Good luck.

Tunku

7,703 posts

258 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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j500ant said:
He can take his test age 16 - just being able to learn would give him no benefit of that extra year, and Motability will lease him a car but only one up to a certain insurance group (8 iirc) unless he needs something else thats more suitable for his mobility needs and in a slightly higher insurance bracket.

Good luck.


That is something I never knew. It's nice to see something useful in the regulations in this country. It gives the disabled person more freedom sooner. I'm all for it.
Anyone know when this law was created? and by whom?

j500ant

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269 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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Tunku said:
j500ant said:
He can take his test age 16 - just being able to learn would give him no benefit of that extra year, and Motability will lease him a car but only one up to a certain insurance group (8 iirc) unless he needs something else thats more suitable for his mobility needs and in a slightly higher insurance bracket.

Good luck.


That is something I never knew. It's nice to see something useful in the regulations in this country. It gives the disabled person more freedom sooner. I'm all for it.
Anyone know when this law was created? and by whom?
By whom: Someone with sense so probably not the current lot. It may well date back to the start of the Motability scheme back in 1977, or maybe as a left over from the blue disability buggy thing?

chrispy porker

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Thursday 26th April 2007
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Well he is autistic, and in no way physically disabled ( he is one of the top athletes in the UK for his age - and gets no allowance made for his disability.)

He only gets the mobility allowance at a lower rate at the moment, but who knows he may be uprated on re- assessment.

Because he is huge ( nearly 23 stone, 6'5 aged 15) he is going to be limited in his choice of car when he is older.

That is one of the reasons I bought a 944 - plenty of room - but I think he wants a van !

WildCat

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273 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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chrispy porker said:
Well he is autistic, and in no way physically disabled ( he is one of the top athletes in the UK for his age - and gets no allowance made for his disability.)

He only gets the mobility allowance at a lower rate at the moment, but who knows he may be uprated on re- assessment.

Because he is huge ( nearly 23 stone, 6'5 aged 15) he is going to be limited in his choice of car when he is older.

That is one of the reasons I bought a 944 - plenty of room - but I think he wants a van !


I think he will be pedantic then over safety if taught sympathetically und correctly. There are a few issues as to how he deal with "unexpected".

I suspect he ist a big boy by virtue of some of his medication . but I guess .. it depend on what he ist prescribed ... und each company has a modification on the product.


I am sure he will be OK with correct tuition und on-going treatment.

I wish him und you very much heart felt supports und best wishes.


love

Vrenchen

chrispy porker

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Thursday 26th April 2007
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He takes no medication. It's all genetic. I am not small and nor is his mum!

jessica

6,321 posts

282 months

Thursday 26th April 2007
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chrispy porker said:
Well he is autistic, and in no way physically disabled ( he is one of the top athletes in the UK for his age - and gets no allowance made for his disability.)

He only gets the mobility allowance at a lower rate at the moment, but who knows he may be uprated on re- assessment.

Because he is huge ( nearly 23 stone, 6'5 aged 15) he is going to be limited in his choice of car when he is older.

That is one of the reasons I bought a 944 - plenty of room - but I think he wants a van !



I've got one of those. An ASPIE.
my son is very athletic also. He is seriously into downhill mountain biking.
currently gets low rate mobility.
middle rate care.

chrispy porker

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Thursday 26th April 2007
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Yep, same here.
His discus coach said to me ( without knowing about his condition)

' Frankly I think the best throwers are a bit autistic'

Then I told him!

You certainly have to be obsessional to succeed in his events.Also it is him versus the tape measure. No Communication skills needed.

Good luck with the biking!




Edited by chrispy porker on Thursday 26th April 23:53