The Black Turbo Engined 3.2 at H&S
The Black Turbo Engined 3.2 at H&S
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bergs2

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2,839 posts

278 months

Monday 30th April 2007
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Try as I have - I've not been able to get this car out of my mind...

www.germansportscars.de/shoper.html

Eveyone I've spoken to thus far has said I'd be bonkers to think about it - arguing that re-sale in the UK would be tricky for such a limited market car (Old/Modified/import/LHD etc. - but its just such a mad car I'm seriously contemplating getting a flight over to have a look.

I'm guessing it would be fairly light relative to a 965 - and thus go like an absolute rocket ship.....

Reasonably stealthy too....

any opinions?

floop

280 posts

236 months

Monday 30th April 2007
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Bonkers is about right - but if you've got a little voice in your head saying you need it then why not?

If it was me I'd be thinking about who I'd want to look after it once I got it back to the UK, and asking them what they think about the spec before parting with my hard-earned.

Also - I know the stealth thing is part of the appeal, but doesn't it look a little....ordinary (ducks for cover)

Agent Orange

2,078 posts

270 months

Monday 30th April 2007
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At that money, knowing how bureaucratic the Germans are, so ull know what bits are in it , how far wrong can u go ???Loads of power kinda 'Q' car

bergs2

Original Poster:

2,839 posts

278 months

Monday 30th April 2007
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floop said:

Also - I know the stealth thing is part of the appeal, but doesn't it look a little....ordinary (ducks for cover)


rofl

I cant seem to get a link to the pic sorted - but 'ordinary' is not the first word that springs to mind.....

maybe 'condorman' scratchchin

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 30th April 2007
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very cool car for £20k

floop

280 posts

236 months

Monday 30th April 2007
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bergs2 said:
floop said:

Also - I know the stealth thing is part of the appeal, but doesn't it look a little....ordinary (ducks for cover)


rofl

I cant seem to get a link to the pic sorted - but 'ordinary' is not the first word that springs to mind.....

maybe 'condorman' scratchchin


...OK apart from the after-markety chin spoiler..and tear drop mirrors...and 2pc/3pc? wheels...and clear indicator lenses...and whale tale...and...oh shut up

RVVUNM

1,913 posts

239 months

Monday 30th April 2007
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Hop on a plane pronto and go get it........you only live once.

graeme36s

7,229 posts

247 months

Monday 30th April 2007
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RVVUNM said:
Hop on a plane pronto and go get it........you only live once.

agreed, can't see how you can go far wrong.

bergs2

Original Poster:

2,839 posts

278 months

Tuesday 1st May 2007
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hehe

Thought I'd get a balanced opinion for you lot!!!

the only issue that is bothering me is the potential for resale in time -

then again at £20k, how much is it really likely to fall??

I can't see any more than a 5-7k hit which over a couple of years (the average i tend to keep my cars for) - is just over a couple of hundred quid a month.

with a heavy fighting fund for maintainance, thats gotta be value??

scratchchin - i seem to be talking myself into it......

willdew

2,138 posts

294 months

Tuesday 1st May 2007
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graeme36s said:
can't see how you can go far wrong.


I bet no one on here's said that before!

GravelBen

16,533 posts

260 months

Tuesday 1st May 2007
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bergs2 said:
I cant seem to get a link to the pic sorted..





anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 1st May 2007
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bergs2 said:
then again at £20k, how much is it really likely to fall??

I can't see any more than a 5-7k hit which over a couple of years


uhhhhhh ok. i'll buy it off you in 2 years for £15k...

seriously, you're not going to lose money on depreciation.

bergs2

Original Poster:

2,839 posts

278 months

Tuesday 1st May 2007
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fbrs said:
bergs2 said:
then again at £20k, how much is it really likely to fall??

I can't see any more than a 5-7k hit which over a couple of years


uhhhhhh ok. i'll buy it off you in 2 years for £15k...

seriously, you're not going to lose money on depreciation.


I know - I'm just working out the 'worst case scenarios' needing out for whatever reason...having to take it to Henry for a trade bid (that would be interesting....)

as some of the fellas on rennlist have pointed out, it's been on their site for quite a while...


nem351s

6,021 posts

245 months

Tuesday 1st May 2007
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bergs2 said:
fbrs said:
bergs2 said:
then again at £20k, how much is it really likely to fall??

I can't see any more than a 5-7k hit which over a couple of years


uhhhhhh ok. i'll buy it off you in 2 years for £15k...

seriously, you're not going to lose money on depreciation.


I know - I'm just working out the 'worst case scenarios' needing out for whatever reason...having to take it to Henry for a trade bid (that would be interesting....)

as some of the fellas on rennlist have pointed out, it's been on their site for quite a while...






Thats an awesome car.

Worst case scenario is you don't go and see it and never find out.

DJC

23,563 posts

266 months

Tuesday 1st May 2007
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Ive also looked with interest at that car!

Somebody has spent serious money on that car, essentially to get a mechanically similar car to a 964T S lwt, but in a narrow Carrera body and with a semi lwt interior. Im not entirely sure *why* somebody would do that, but the result is very appealing...esp at that price!

I dont think there are many who have experienced the 383BHP 3.3 Turbo engine in the lwt 964T S, but I have and it remains an utterly vivid memory that not even a Sagaris on full blast can match. Mid range is phenomenal and the noise fantastic.

Personally, I say go for it. If you dont, in a cpl of months if things go to plan, I may well do so. Translation: if she lets me.

Mr Lucky

25 posts

235 months

Tuesday 1st May 2007
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Oh boy - that looks like a nice car......go get em floyd. Mind you, sports seats make your bum ache..(going for a balanced view).


Edited by Mr Lucky on Tuesday 1st May 16:03

willdew

2,138 posts

294 months

Tuesday 1st May 2007
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fbrs said:
bergs2 said:
then again at £20k, how much is it really likely to fall??

I can't see any more than a 5-7k hit which over a couple of years


uhhhhhh ok. i'll buy it off you in 2 years for £15k...

seriously, you're not going to lose money on depreciation.


I'll join the queue and buy it off you in 4 years for £10k!

964RS

1,357 posts

277 months

Tuesday 1st May 2007
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bergs2 said:


as some of the fellas on rennlist have pointed out, it's been on their site for quite a while...



I wonder why? Has anyone said?

johnny senna

4,073 posts

302 months

Tuesday 1st May 2007
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I like the idea of this car for 20K. Sort of a cut-price Ruf Yellowbird.

graeme36s

7,229 posts

247 months

Tuesday 1st May 2007
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johnny senna said:
I like the idea of this car for 20K. Sort of a cut-price Ruf Yellowbird.

Definately a cut price yellowbird. The up side is that for £20K you ain't going to buy a quicker 911, have more value per £ or IMO loose much money if any. The down side compared to say a Ruf is a little less power (but it is a fifth of the price), weighs a bit more especially with a hefty turbo engine and gearbox hanging out the back. It won't drive as well as a 3.2 carrera on 15 or 16" rims. But that can be said about 964's, 993 or 964 turbo's that all drive nicer on 17" rims.
At least speak to Thomas Schmitz I am told he is an incredibly honest guy to deal with.