Converting FWD zetec / duratec to RWD car?
Converting FWD zetec / duratec to RWD car?
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Davi

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17,153 posts

244 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2007
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Trying to help a young lad I know with his project car, we've been through just about every iteration of what performance he wants and what he can realistically achieve / afford....

He has a road going Jago at the moment, but want's more poke than the knackered old escort engine produces, so I've suggested for simplicity sake he just get the lastest incarnation, be it a duratec or zetec.

Question is, what are the options on joining a duratec or zetec to a RWD set up? knowing the exact current setup is tricky (he lives a fair distance from me so it's all done via MSN!), but I can say it's all mkII escort - 1600 engine, 1300 GB and diff.

any and all options appreciated!

Mikey G

4,857 posts

264 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2007
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Its been done many times before. I think the MT75 bolts straght on but if you want to put a rocket box or T5 on it you will need a bellhousing.
Its a very popular RWD engine so the parts should be easy to find.

Davi

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17,153 posts

244 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2007
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thought it probably would be, just having not done it myself (and I'll be talking him through) need to get it all straight in my head.

Moose.

5,345 posts

265 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2007
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Zetec bolts to a type 9 gearbox no probs.

Duratec does not. It's got a totally different bolt pattern, so would need a custom bellhousing to mate it to a RWD gearbox.

tooslow

5 posts

227 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2007
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To fit the Zetec to a MK2 Escort/jago talk check this forum www.turbosport.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=143

it is specially to fit the zetec in to MK1 and MK2 ford Escorts also else where in the forum there is one for the Duratec,

from what I can gather the 1800 engine from the escort is the best to go for with a type 9 box and a hybrid clutch
part Zetec Pressure plate part crossflow friction plate and a capri?? release bearing

Carbs or fuel injection I have seen standard Injection, twin choke webers and even a down draft weber on a special manifold using old ford ignition DIS runing from a crank sensor I think it is from a 1300 with a carb but not sure,

any way this forum has all the answers

Davi

Original Poster:

17,153 posts

244 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2007
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Moose. said:
Zetec bolts to a type 9 gearbox no probs.

Duratec does not. It's got a totally different bolt pattern, so would need a custom bellhousing to mate it to a RWD gearbox.


no change of bellhousing for zetec to type 9 then? was just reading and someone mentioned needing an RS2000 bellhousing?

Davi

Original Poster:

17,153 posts

244 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2007
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tooslow said:
To fit the Zetec to a MK2 Escort/jago talk check this forum www.turbosport.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=143

it is specially to fit the zetec in to MK1 and MK2 ford Escorts also else where in the forum there is one for the Duratec,

from what I can gather the 1800 engine from the escort is the best to go for with a type 9 box and a hybrid clutch
part Zetec Pressure plate part crossflow friction plate and a capri?? release bearing

Carbs or fuel injection I have seen standard Injection, twin choke webers and even a down draft weber on a special manifold using old ford ignition DIS runing from a crank sensor I think it is from a 1300 with a carb but not sure,

any way this forum has all the answers


many thanks tooslow!

tooslow

5 posts

227 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2007
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no problem
that forum helped me no end when I fitted a zetec in to my MK1 escort

Ben_k3

247 posts

230 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2007
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Duratec allready has a rwd gearbox as thats what is used in the mk3 mx5.
Would be expensive though.

grahambell

2,720 posts

299 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2007
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Davi said:
no change of bellhousing for zetec to type 9 then? was just reading and someone mentioned needing an RS2000 bellhousing?


All Ford 4 pots from the pre-crossflow through X-flow, Pinto, CVH and Zetec use the same bolt pattern on the back of the block, so any 4-pot Cortina or Sierra bellhousing should do. Only difference with the RS2000 one is that it's ally not cast iron.

As mentioned, Duratec is completely diffrent, and while you can get bellhousings for RWD fits they're specialist jobs and not cheap, so Zetec would be better option - though you've still got the water pipes and other bits to sort out so hardly a straight swap.

westyman

100 posts

267 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2007
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Financially, probably prohibitive to stick in a Jago, and possibly too much performance for the chassis/suspension. He would probably be better off looking for a tuned pinto that someone has removed to stick a 16v engine in.

Davi

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17,153 posts

244 months

Thursday 3rd May 2007
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many thanks Ben & Graham, zetec is now firmly the choice.

Westyman - you think this is too powerful for a Jago, you should see what some people are sticking in them...!!! yikes

Obviously it's not going to be simply a case of bolting an engine in and hooning off into the sunset, but he has to start somewhere and without a firmed up plan he's just been going in circles. Now the block n box are decided it's much simpler to plan what else is needed.

stevebubs

47 posts

289 months

Friday 4th May 2007
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Davi said:
Moose. said:
Zetec bolts to a type 9 gearbox no probs.

Duratec does not. It's got a totally different bolt pattern, so would need a custom bellhousing to mate it to a RWD gearbox.


no change of bellhousing for zetec to type 9 then? was just reading and someone mentioned needing an RS2000 bellhousing?


Hope not...Been running my zetec Furyon a Type 9 with std CVH bellhousing for the last 2 years ....



Edited by stevebubs on Friday 4th May 18:45