bye bye gumball?
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http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0
After this I rekon so and to be honest good riddance!
Load of p*ssed up/sleep deprived idiots doing their best to kill innocent drivers or "petrolheads" having fun?
After this I rekon so and to be honest good riddance!
Load of p*ssed up/sleep deprived idiots doing their best to kill innocent drivers or "petrolheads" having fun?
Edited by fridaypassion on Thursday 3rd May 19:23
Black BMW....Polizei.....I wonder???
I love motoring and love the idea of cannonball in particular...this however is sickening. IMO the all involved (driver, passenger who run and BMW team who aided attempted escape) are scum. Come on folks when did motoring involve hammering around little roads with no sleep and potentially high blood alchohol level..its not about that is it!!
Rip to the deceased, thoughts with the family and best of luck to the injured wife.
I love motoring and love the idea of cannonball in particular...this however is sickening. IMO the all involved (driver, passenger who run and BMW team who aided attempted escape) are scum. Come on folks when did motoring involve hammering around little roads with no sleep and potentially high blood alchohol level..its not about that is it!!
Rip to the deceased, thoughts with the family and best of luck to the injured wife.
The Gumball symbolises much of what is good in a free society and it offers up an ideal of modern day buccaneers pushing back the boundries and flouting the rules – something that, I’m sure if we’re honest, most of us would like to do but few of us have the cash, the time, the lack of responsibility or such a compelling sense of adventure that makes us simply have to be part of it. Just following these events is a form of escapism in itself providing no one actually gets hurt, particularly innocent non participants - and then this happens. Now the reverie is shattered and the reality hits hard.
This is a dangerous activity and the death of an uninterested bystander was, to some extent, predictable but nonetheless tragic, made much worse by the astounding stupidity and cowardess of idiots involved trying to do a runner.
What happens next will be interesting to see.
This is a dangerous activity and the death of an uninterested bystander was, to some extent, predictable but nonetheless tragic, made much worse by the astounding stupidity and cowardess of idiots involved trying to do a runner.
What happens next will be interesting to see.
In the book "Sunday Driver" by Brock Yates, there's a chapter on the original Canonball - Sea to Shining Sea race.
This was organised as protest about the impending 55mph speed limit and was won by Brock (motoring journalist and amateur racer) and Dan Gurney (Indy/Nascar Champ) in a Ferrari Daytona.
What this has to do with a load of chinless wonders and desperate-to-keep-in-the-public-eye, c-listers tear arsing between p*ss ups at 5 star hotels, I've no idea.
This was organised as protest about the impending 55mph speed limit and was won by Brock (motoring journalist and amateur racer) and Dan Gurney (Indy/Nascar Champ) in a Ferrari Daytona.
What this has to do with a load of chinless wonders and desperate-to-keep-in-the-public-eye, c-listers tear arsing between p*ss ups at 5 star hotels, I've no idea.
Hi.
Well, it was going to happen eventually...
I agree - the ideal of the Gumball as a pretty hedonistic club of fun people having a laugh seems to have been taken over - by the wannabees and celebs.
I was on Gumball 2003 from San Francisco to Miami and saw lots of fast driving, and even more fast living, but all in good spirit.
This idea that it is now a race, and bragging rights go to those who came "first" started long ago and are getting out of hand...
That being said I don't want it to stop, or be "finished" by this event. Neither can I think of a way of stopping participants racing.
I believe Max has done the right thing to cancel the rest of the event as a mark of respect, but don't blame him or the Gumball itself for the idiotic behaviour of a few participants.
All participants are taken through a briefing before the start, explaining that this is NOT a race. You also have to sign a paper legally acknowledging that fact.
So I'm afraid the muppets who did it and then ran away with accomplices are solely to blame!
Hope they get slammed in jail - that was someone's dad / grandfather / husband they killed through obviously dangerous driving.
I hope all holidays like this continue - the Cannonball, the Gumball, even the Eurohoon have drivers of varying degrees of skill in fast cars trying to out-do one another.
Naturally, like the rest of you, my thoughts go out to the family of the crash victims.
Well, it was going to happen eventually...
I agree - the ideal of the Gumball as a pretty hedonistic club of fun people having a laugh seems to have been taken over - by the wannabees and celebs.
I was on Gumball 2003 from San Francisco to Miami and saw lots of fast driving, and even more fast living, but all in good spirit.
This idea that it is now a race, and bragging rights go to those who came "first" started long ago and are getting out of hand...
That being said I don't want it to stop, or be "finished" by this event. Neither can I think of a way of stopping participants racing.
I believe Max has done the right thing to cancel the rest of the event as a mark of respect, but don't blame him or the Gumball itself for the idiotic behaviour of a few participants.
All participants are taken through a briefing before the start, explaining that this is NOT a race. You also have to sign a paper legally acknowledging that fact.
So I'm afraid the muppets who did it and then ran away with accomplices are solely to blame!
Hope they get slammed in jail - that was someone's dad / grandfather / husband they killed through obviously dangerous driving.
I hope all holidays like this continue - the Cannonball, the Gumball, even the Eurohoon have drivers of varying degrees of skill in fast cars trying to out-do one another.
Naturally, like the rest of you, my thoughts go out to the family of the crash victims.
The fact is everyone knows its a race, signing a disclaimer is just to protect the organiser; if it isn't a race why the presence of so many specially prepared and tuned cars??
Whether its the Gumball or the Cannonball makes little difference as far as I can see; its still people putting other innocents at risk by street racing, whether theyre 'celebrities' or 'petrolheads'.
Inevitable, sad, and avoidable; if you want to go racing, get a licence.
Whether its the Gumball or the Cannonball makes little difference as far as I can see; its still people putting other innocents at risk by street racing, whether theyre 'celebrities' or 'petrolheads'.
Inevitable, sad, and avoidable; if you want to go racing, get a licence.
freedman said:
True petrolheads wouldnt have attempted arunner, leaving two seriosly injured peopl in their wake. So to answer your question, the former
dont let the facts get in the way of your opinion
www.guardian.co.uk/uklatest/story/0,,-6607494,00.html
Why would you run from the scene of a crime like that? What possible advantage have you to gain? Sometimes I just don't understand people. Tragic events and especially for the innocent parties involved.
Personally I think the idea of gumball is in itself sound & I would love to have particpated (in years gone by) but surely it has now got out of hand. The last "Gumball"?
Personally I think the idea of gumball is in itself sound & I would love to have particpated (in years gone by) but surely it has now got out of hand. The last "Gumball"?
according to the guardian they didnt 'run' away.
again, according the article linked above, they re-joined the race once an ambulance had attended the scene and taken the others to hospital, and explained what happened at the border, when they were informed someone had died, and as such, had to be detained.
The problem is people are so quick to crucify people on this forum... I prefer to wait for the true facts of an event to come out before making an opinion..
again, according the article linked above, they re-joined the race once an ambulance had attended the scene and taken the others to hospital, and explained what happened at the border, when they were informed someone had died, and as such, had to be detained.
The problem is people are so quick to crucify people on this forum... I prefer to wait for the true facts of an event to come out before making an opinion..
mikeg996 said:
Good God, it's like the letters page of the Daily Mail in here.
Very true. I'm not in any way a fan of the Gumball - I like the idea of it, but am not enamoured by what it has become or the crowd that do it. But we haven't a clue what actually happened so should be less quick to judge.
loach said:
mikeg996 said:
Good God, it's like the letters page of the Daily Mail in here.
Very true. I'm not in any way a fan of the Gumball - I like the idea of it, but am not enamoured by what it has become or the crowd that do it. But we haven't a clue what actually happened so should be less quick to judge.
Damn right. To be involved in a high-speed accident involves a lot of shock. It's easy to be convinced by somebody else that "running" is the best idea.
loach said:
mikeg996 said:
Good God, it's like the letters page of the Daily Mail in here.
Very true. I'm not in any way a fan of the Gumball - I like the idea of it, but am not enamoured by what it has become or the crowd that do it. But we haven't a clue what actually happened so should be less quick to judge.
oh come on... PH should have its own gallows, so it can hang the 'obviously guilty' before any facts actually come to light...
mikeg996 said:
loach said:
mikeg996 said:
Good God, it's like the letters page of the Daily Mail in here.
Very true. I'm not in any way a fan of the Gumball - I like the idea of it, but am not enamoured by what it has become or the crowd that do it. But we haven't a clue what actually happened so should be less quick to judge.
Damn right. To be involved in a high-speed accident involves a lot of shock. It's easy to be convinced by somebody else that "running" is the best idea.
If indeed they ran. Like I said, I'm no fan of the event, as I believe the Gumball is less about cars and more about a bunch of onanistic and self-congratulatory cun*s competing in a 'who's got the biggest wad' competition, whilst patting their own and eachothers backs for generally being super. Gay. But between one account saying the guys in question waited at the scene and turned themselves in at the border, another saying they fled the scene immediately, another saying they waited and then left - who knows? None of us was there. I've my suspicions, but they're just that - suspicions. I'd cut them a little slack 'till more info is available.
loach said:
If indeed they ran. Like I said, I'm no fan of the event, as I believe the Gumball is less about cars and more about a bunch of onanistic and self-congratulatory cun*s competing in a 'who's got the biggest wad' competition, whilst patting their own and eachothers backs for generally being super. Gay. But between one account saying the guys in question waited at the scene and turned themselves in at the border, another saying they fled the scene immediately, another saying they waited and then left - who knows? None of us was there. I've my suspicions, but they're just that - suspicions. I'd cut them a little slack 'till more info is available.
Shame about the Porsche, though :-(
I'm not expressing any opinion, but I can dig up stuff on the net to show any point of view on the matter too:
www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=47760&in_page_id=34
"Nick Morley and Matthew McConville's ultrahigh performance Porsche 911 was said to have veered on to the wrong side of the road and struck Vladimir and Margarita Chepulyoski's VW Golf."
"The Britons were said to have leapt into another car taking part in the Macedonian leg of the Gumball 3000 rally and headed for the border."
"The pair were stopped by guards as they tried to cross into Albania, police said."
Who knows what their intentions were? But I have to say that their behaviour was at best foolish as it could so easily be construed as them trying to get away. There are also reports of witnesses passing on the information to the police, detailing the car that they got into to leave the scene. This was then used to identify them trying to cross the border, resulting in their arrests.
Let's wait until the full story comes out, eh?
www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=47760&in_page_id=34
"Nick Morley and Matthew McConville's ultrahigh performance Porsche 911 was said to have veered on to the wrong side of the road and struck Vladimir and Margarita Chepulyoski's VW Golf."
"The Britons were said to have leapt into another car taking part in the Macedonian leg of the Gumball 3000 rally and headed for the border."
"The pair were stopped by guards as they tried to cross into Albania, police said."
Who knows what their intentions were? But I have to say that their behaviour was at best foolish as it could so easily be construed as them trying to get away. There are also reports of witnesses passing on the information to the police, detailing the car that they got into to leave the scene. This was then used to identify them trying to cross the border, resulting in their arrests.
Let's wait until the full story comes out, eh?
Edited by Soop Dogg on Friday 4th May 10:44
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