4 Point Harness for Sagaris
Discussion
yellow peril said:
Calling Sportie......Daftlad.......have either of you fitted a 4 point?
YP
YP
Problems with the proper Sagaris seats. The harness will spread around the seat making it almost useless.
Would need to modify the seat to allow the shoulder straps to pass through behine the neck or change the seat.
Tuscan seats would be easier.
[quote=MrsSProblems with the proper Sagaris seats. The harness will spread around the seat making it almost useless.
Would need to modify the seat to allow the shoulder straps to pass through behine the neck or change the seat.
Tuscan seats would be easier.[/quote]
Any ideas where to anchor 4 points with tuscan seats anyone
Would need to modify the seat to allow the shoulder straps to pass through behine the neck or change the seat.
Tuscan seats would be easier.[/quote]
Any ideas where to anchor 4 points with tuscan seats anyone
To put a 4p harness in you will need to do quite a lot of mods. Firstly you will have to change the seats, as Marg Simpson quite rightly said. Then you will have to get some kind of fixing point behind the seat for the shoulder straps. The type of seat with the holes in the back dont usually come with seat sliders so your seat will be in a fixed position probably.
I done all the above last year and at one point thought i had bit off more than i could chew, it took nearly 3 weeks working every evening. Once you have done all this you will then find the steering wheel is to big as the gap between the front of the seat and the bottom of the steering wheel is to close to get your legs in. So now you need a new wheel but that entails a new boss and new smaller paddles.
Believe me its a nightmare.
The only reason i persivererd with this monster job is I only track the car and in my opinion you hit something hard an inertia seat belt is more likely going to leave you with a broken back (at worst) than a 4p harness plus you feel very connected to the chassis being in a seat that is bolted down and you being straped in tight.
I done all the above last year and at one point thought i had bit off more than i could chew, it took nearly 3 weeks working every evening. Once you have done all this you will then find the steering wheel is to big as the gap between the front of the seat and the bottom of the steering wheel is to close to get your legs in. So now you need a new wheel but that entails a new boss and new smaller paddles.
Believe me its a nightmare.
The only reason i persivererd with this monster job is I only track the car and in my opinion you hit something hard an inertia seat belt is more likely going to leave you with a broken back (at worst) than a 4p harness plus you feel very connected to the chassis being in a seat that is bolted down and you being straped in tight.
Edited by YI8TVR on Saturday 5th May 11:43
YI8TVR said:
To put a 4p harness in you will need to do quite a lot of mods. Firstly you will have to change the seats, as Marg Simpson quite rightly said. Then you will have to get some kind of fixing point behind the seat for the shoulder straps. The type of seat with the holes in the back dont usually come with seat sliders so your seat will be in a fixed position probably.
I done all the above last year and at one point thought i had bit off more than i could chew, it took nearly 3 weeks working every evening. Once you have done all this you will then find the steering wheel is to big as the gap between the front of the seat and the bottom of the steering wheel is to close to get your legs in. So now you need a new wheel but that entails a new boss and new smaller paddles.
Believe me its a nightmare.
The only reason i persivererd with this monster job is I only track the car and in my opinion you hit something hard an inertia seat belt is more likely going to leave you with a broken back (at worst) than a 4p harness plus you feel very connected to the chassis being in a seat that is bolted down and you being straped in tight.
I done all the above last year and at one point thought i had bit off more than i could chew, it took nearly 3 weeks working every evening. Once you have done all this you will then find the steering wheel is to big as the gap between the front of the seat and the bottom of the steering wheel is to close to get your legs in. So now you need a new wheel but that entails a new boss and new smaller paddles.
Believe me its a nightmare.
The only reason i persivererd with this monster job is I only track the car and in my opinion you hit something hard an inertia seat belt is more likely going to leave you with a broken back (at worst) than a 4p harness plus you feel very connected to the chassis being in a seat that is bolted down and you being straped in tight.
Edited by YI8TVR on Saturday 5th May 11:43
Marg.....she will be pleased!
Think you've just saved me alot of agrovation!!
See you Tuesday at Cadwell (with Marg)
Daftlad said:
YI8TVR said:
To put a 4p harness in you will need to do quite a lot of mods. Firstly you will have to change the seats, as Marg Simpson quite rightly said. Then you will have to get some kind of fixing point behind the seat for the shoulder straps. The type of seat with the holes in the back dont usually come with seat sliders so your seat will be in a fixed position probably.
I done all the above last year and at one point thought i had bit off more than i could chew, it took nearly 3 weeks working every evening. Once you have done all this you will then find the steering wheel is to big as the gap between the front of the seat and the bottom of the steering wheel is to close to get your legs in. So now you need a new wheel but that entails a new boss and new smaller paddles.
Believe me its a nightmare.
The only reason i persivererd with this monster job is I only track the car and in my opinion you hit something hard an inertia seat belt is more likely going to leave you with a broken back (at worst) than a 4p harness plus you feel very connected to the chassis being in a seat that is bolted down and you being straped in tight.
I done all the above last year and at one point thought i had bit off more than i could chew, it took nearly 3 weeks working every evening. Once you have done all this you will then find the steering wheel is to big as the gap between the front of the seat and the bottom of the steering wheel is to close to get your legs in. So now you need a new wheel but that entails a new boss and new smaller paddles.
Believe me its a nightmare.
The only reason i persivererd with this monster job is I only track the car and in my opinion you hit something hard an inertia seat belt is more likely going to leave you with a broken back (at worst) than a 4p harness plus you feel very connected to the chassis being in a seat that is bolted down and you being straped in tight.
Edited by YI8TVR on Saturday 5th May 11:43
Marg.....she will be pleased!
Think you've just saved me alot of agrovation!!
See you Tuesday at Cadwell (with Marg)
It was all in the best possible taste Mrs S. Please dont bash me up tuesday..
YI8TVR said:
Daftlad said:
YI8TVR said:
To put a 4p harness in you will need to do quite a lot of mods. Firstly you will have to change the seats, as Marg Simpson quite rightly said. Then you will have to get some kind of fixing point behind the seat for the shoulder straps. The type of seat with the holes in the back dont usually come with seat sliders so your seat will be in a fixed position probably.
I done all the above last year and at one point thought i had bit off more than i could chew, it took nearly 3 weeks working every evening. Once you have done all this you will then find the steering wheel is to big as the gap between the front of the seat and the bottom of the steering wheel is to close to get your legs in. So now you need a new wheel but that entails a new boss and new smaller paddles.
Believe me its a nightmare.
The only reason i persivererd with this monster job is I only track the car and in my opinion you hit something hard an inertia seat belt is more likely going to leave you with a broken back (at worst) than a 4p harness plus you feel very connected to the chassis being in a seat that is bolted down and you being straped in tight.
I done all the above last year and at one point thought i had bit off more than i could chew, it took nearly 3 weeks working every evening. Once you have done all this you will then find the steering wheel is to big as the gap between the front of the seat and the bottom of the steering wheel is to close to get your legs in. So now you need a new wheel but that entails a new boss and new smaller paddles.
Believe me its a nightmare.
The only reason i persivererd with this monster job is I only track the car and in my opinion you hit something hard an inertia seat belt is more likely going to leave you with a broken back (at worst) than a 4p harness plus you feel very connected to the chassis being in a seat that is bolted down and you being straped in tight.
Edited by YI8TVR on Saturday 5th May 11:43
Marg.....she will be pleased!
Think you've just saved me alot of agrovation!!
See you Tuesday at Cadwell (with Marg)
It was all in the best possible taste Mrs S. Please dont bash me up tuesday..
I will give it carefull consideration.

Daftlad said:
targarama said:
Looks like we might have showers for Cadwell. Finger crossed for a dry line.
Cant be as bad as last year.......surely!
I missed last year after created my own rainstorm out of the radiator cap at Snetterton. Only managed 2 track days and got 2 blown HGs for the pleasure (2nd time was Oulton in Aug 06). I'll be taking it easy on Tuesday (honest).
MrsS said:
targarama said:
Daftlad said:
targarama said:
Looks like we might have showers for Cadwell. Finger crossed for a dry line.
Cant be as bad as last year.......surely!
Me too

Sorry Targ, that was me posting, after taking the red wine bottle of the bride........
Daftlad said:
Back on topic, and apologies, that looks like a neat (and worthwhile - for me)installation. Need to investigate further.
You are welcome to have a nose Tuesday. Its probably the best thing ive done to the TVR apart from the 500hp supercharged engine transplant.
Plus the all important weight saving. Its a saving of one TVR seat
YI8TVR said:
Daftlad said:
Back on topic, and apologies, that looks like a neat (and worthwhile - for me)installation. Need to investigate further.
You are welcome to have a nose Tuesday. Its probably the best thing ive done to the TVR apart from the 500hp supercharged engine transplant.
Plus the all important weight saving. Its a saving of one TVR seat
Thanks for that
Just for info tuscan seats are 16kg each
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