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Am seriously considering changing from TVR to Porsche
Am I on track?
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Am I on track?
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Better a Wham tape than doubles-sided sticky tape, eh? 
When the build quality is germanic, you can devote more time to indulging your dodgy music tastes. I can remember picking up a Carrera 2 with Scottster once... I found a Flock of Seagulls album in the passenger door bin as we drove off...
When the build quality is germanic, you can devote more time to indulging your dodgy music tastes. I can remember picking up a Carrera 2 with Scottster once... I found a Flock of Seagulls album in the passenger door bin as we drove off...
Well, a lot of people do it in the end. One thing that is different is the all round ability and integrity of the over-engineered Porsche design, meaning it can be a civilised and comfortable cruiser when you want it to be, and easy to drive in modern congestion, as well as being fun to drive quickly when conditions allow. TVR only really concentrate on the latter, which is absolutely fine for a weekend car, but not so good if you want a daily driver.
I've just made this move (via a sensible car but we don't talk about that). I've gone from a Chimaera to a 993 C2 and so far, I've nothing to regret.
It has a different character: it goes as well as the TVR but can do the relaxed motorway cruise thing much better. Sitting at 120mph on the French autoroute over the weekend, it felt as if I were doing 80...
If you can stretch to a 993, I'd recommend it (as an owner for just four days!).
It has a different character: it goes as well as the TVR but can do the relaxed motorway cruise thing much better. Sitting at 120mph on the French autoroute over the weekend, it felt as if I were doing 80...
If you can stretch to a 993, I'd recommend it (as an owner for just four days!).
Don - Im really sorry to put down the boxster but I couldnt live with one
It may well be a fine car but it is too "popular" for me and lacks individuality. (ducks quickly)
thanks for the reply though
Manek - £18K will be about the limit - thanks for your encouragement (ps what was that sensible car? !!)
It may well be a fine car but it is too "popular" for me and lacks individuality. (ducks quickly)
thanks for the reply though
Manek - £18K will be about the limit - thanks for your encouragement (ps what was that sensible car? !!)
Blimey, a posting from Dom that doesn't mention RSs...Hav you considered a 964 RS by the way?...I can thoroughly recommend them - naturally only a Rubystone red car will do...that's a kind of Raspberry red colour...changes colour subtly as day turns to night, the sun slipping slowly behind the horizon, casting its final rays upon the sleek, slippery shape that is the 964 RS, hunkered down on its 17 inch Technomagnesia wheels, devoid of spoilers, the purity of the 911 lineage on display for all to see, function in form, no excesses or excrescences, the shape seemingly stretched around the occupants and.....bugger, slipped into Derestrictor mode there...
Buy a Porsche, you won't regret it
Buy a Porsche, you won't regret it
murph7355 said: I'm surprised you knew your car "...changes colour subtly as day turns to night..." as I thought you only ever took it out in the dark.
Rubystone used to take it out in the daytime. But just to the Guidedog Training School, then back.
Seriously, for 18k, you are into 964 (non RS sadly) territory. To be honest, decent 993s start a good grand or two above that.
You can get a 964 C2 cabriolet for that money, but a manual coupe is more of a driver's car and may be easier to sell on as it is more of a 'classic' spec. You may find a 965 (964 Turbo 2) is within your budget in LHD.
The 993 is a much better car in many respects, mainly refinement, but may lack the raw edge you are used to in the TVR (see 964 or earlier for that). It could be cheaper to run and easier to live with, though, so maybe finding a grand or two above budget would make sense.
Finally, if you can do without the chainsaw howl of a flat six, the 968 Clubsports offer good value for money at the moment and come highly recommended.
>> Edited by domster (moderator) on Monday 12th May 09:40
gemini
I'm just about to do likewise (TVR to Porsche)... I think. Let me know how you get on if you do make the change and me vice versa. I have to say my main worry is that I absolutely loved the TVR and I'm worried a Porsche will be a disappointment. However as you have said: done the TVR thing and haven't yet tried a Porsche. It would be too easy to go for another chimp. My hearts says TVR but my head says Porsche.
In any case since I've spent the last x years rubbishing Porkers as yuppie/hairdressers cars at least if I don't like it I can sell it, buy a TVR and continue to rubbish them but with some level of authority! :ducksandrunsforcover:
I'm just about to do likewise (TVR to Porsche)... I think. Let me know how you get on if you do make the change and me vice versa. I have to say my main worry is that I absolutely loved the TVR and I'm worried a Porsche will be a disappointment. However as you have said: done the TVR thing and haven't yet tried a Porsche. It would be too easy to go for another chimp. My hearts says TVR but my head says Porsche.
In any case since I've spent the last x years rubbishing Porkers as yuppie/hairdressers cars at least if I don't like it I can sell it, buy a TVR and continue to rubbish them but with some level of authority!
:ducksandrunsforcover:
gemini said: Don - Im really sorry to put down the boxster but I couldnt live with one
It may well be a fine car but it is too "popular" for me and lacks individuality. (ducks quickly)
thanks for the reply though.
No need to apologise - their very popularity means they are not for everyone. I contend that they are the car that Porsche make that is closest in spirit to a Chimaera/Tamora though...
£18K will be about the limit
Despite Quentin Wilson's claim you'd be struggling to get a Boxster you wanted for that money.
Now Dom's 964 was (is) utterly, utterly gorgeous and would certainly provide a unique 911 experience.
If you can get one for the loot - they may be elderly but they are a rawer more focussed drive that will echo the TVR experience in its own germanic way.
Well worth it...
The 993 is a modern car, frankly, and nothing wrong with that. Easier to live with in a lot of ways but I'd always be salami slicing my way towards a 996 in that case...others will disagree, of course, and so they should.
Manek - BTW how are you enjoying the Porsche vs TVR change? Joined PCGB? DOing any Track Days? Tell us more!
Don, the 993 is excellent so far though a small niggle (how familiar is THAT word??) popped up this weekend after only a couple of days' ownership. The clutch doesn't quite fully disengage occasionally, usually at low speeds.
It's more annoying that crippling but I don't expect that from a Porsche -- or for that matter any car I've just paid the thick end of £30k for. So it's off to Addspeed in Horsham on Thursday to see what they think. Autobahn (in Coventry, where I bought it) has agreed to foot the bill, as long as it's not a major repair. If it is, I'll have to invoke the official warranty policy.
And I think too that the tracking needs adjustment since it's pretty lively on uneven surfaces.
This weekend though I hooned off down to Folembray, left the 993 on the sidelines and tracked it using Bookatrack's Caterham Superlight -- the ideal car for that track, which is short and twisty -- it doesn't suit a high-powered, heavier car, in my view.
I was tempted to take the 993 on track but I'd only had it two days and I'm still familiarising myself with it. Worried that the red mist would descend (it always does) and I'd bend it, I managed to resist temptation. Somehow...
It's more annoying that crippling but I don't expect that from a Porsche -- or for that matter any car I've just paid the thick end of £30k for. So it's off to Addspeed in Horsham on Thursday to see what they think. Autobahn (in Coventry, where I bought it) has agreed to foot the bill, as long as it's not a major repair. If it is, I'll have to invoke the official warranty policy.
And I think too that the tracking needs adjustment since it's pretty lively on uneven surfaces.
This weekend though I hooned off down to Folembray, left the 993 on the sidelines and tracked it using Bookatrack's Caterham Superlight -- the ideal car for that track, which is short and twisty -- it doesn't suit a high-powered, heavier car, in my view.
I was tempted to take the 993 on track but I'd only had it two days and I'm still familiarising myself with it. Worried that the red mist would descend (it always does) and I'd bend it, I managed to resist temptation. Somehow...
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