Mesh pc, would this setup work?
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Basically i need to know if this has a suitable motherboard /power and cooling to support this graphics card. Seems like a much better deal than anything Dell has to offer. I have a plug and play tft so i'm assuming i won't need theirs.
It would be for gaming, internet and light photoshop work . Think i heard on the gaming forum that this is a good card. Also this would fit my budget. Realy don't want or need to spend more.
Thanks
www.meshcomputers.com/Default.aspx?PAGE=PRODUCTCONFIGPAGE&USG=PRODUCT&ENT=PRODUCT&KEY=204409
Dam link won't work with upgrades.
Basically i chose the 256MB nVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT - DVI, HDTV, TV-Out[upg £ 70.00]
with win xp home as i heard vista uses a lot of memory. Also minus the TFT came to £384.74
It would be for gaming, internet and light photoshop work . Think i heard on the gaming forum that this is a good card. Also this would fit my budget. Realy don't want or need to spend more.
Thanks
www.meshcomputers.com/Default.aspx?PAGE=PRODUCTCONFIGPAGE&USG=PRODUCT&ENT=PRODUCT&KEY=204409
Dam link won't work with upgrades.
Basically i chose the 256MB nVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT - DVI, HDTV, TV-Out[upg £ 70.00]
with win xp home as i heard vista uses a lot of memory. Also minus the TFT came to £384.74
Edited by bilko2 on Wednesday 9th May 01:21
Watch out. The spec looks good, however the defaults are for an onboard graphics card. It won't be that strong a games machine. It does however have a PCI-E slot so you can upgrade if you wish at a later date.
If they're throwing in a 19" panel as well... bargin. You can pay £200 for display.
If they're throwing in a 19" panel as well... bargin. You can pay £200 for display.
bilko2 said:
Thanks
If i upgrade to the 550 psu will this mainboard be ok as there is no upgrade option? - ASUS M2V-MX AM2 K8M890 Micro ATX Mainboard. Not that i pretend to know what a psu or mainboard does but just hoping it all works ith that graphics card.
If i upgrade to the 550 psu will this mainboard be ok as there is no upgrade option? - ASUS M2V-MX AM2 K8M890 Micro ATX Mainboard. Not that i pretend to know what a psu or mainboard does but just hoping it all works ith that graphics card.
The mainboard will be fine with that PSU. All the PSU (Power Supply Unit) does is what the name suggests.
Tonsko said:
There was a slot on watchdog dealing with Mesh's overpriced machines, shoddy components and shit service. When stuff breaks, you have a premium rate line to call.
Ok, they might not all be like that, but be aware!
Ok, they might not all be like that, but be aware!
Hi Tonsko
Would you say they are better than Dell though?
There is no way i could get that graphics card with compatible settup for just over £4oo delivered on Dell. Iv'e looked.
I'd've said go for Dell over Mesh.
Before purchasing it, I'd contact Mesh and find exactly which brand of components they are putting in that machine. I've just done a search of components (to buy seperately):
Asus M2V-MX K8T890(socket AM2) - £38.76
AMD 3800 X2 AM2 - £50.75
256Mb Palit 8500GT - £56.75
1Gb Corsair TwinX XMS2 (PC6400-800hz) - £50.10
250Gb Hitachi Deskstar SATA II - £42.22
TOTAL - £238.58
DVD drives are around 16 quid no matter what you get, you can get a case for around 40. Keyboard and mouse, another 20 quid.
What games do you want to play?
Before purchasing it, I'd contact Mesh and find exactly which brand of components they are putting in that machine. I've just done a search of components (to buy seperately):
Asus M2V-MX K8T890(socket AM2) - £38.76
AMD 3800 X2 AM2 - £50.75
256Mb Palit 8500GT - £56.75
1Gb Corsair TwinX XMS2 (PC6400-800hz) - £50.10
250Gb Hitachi Deskstar SATA II - £42.22
TOTAL - £238.58
DVD drives are around 16 quid no matter what you get, you can get a case for around 40. Keyboard and mouse, another 20 quid.
What games do you want to play?
Not realy up on which games are out at the moment but, i would like to play Rfactor and get good settings out of say the second/ third latest games. Like 8 months ago.
Swat 4
the latest Rome total war
racing sims
I heard exactly the same thing about low quality components in dell pc's
i guess you get what you pay for. A gaming pc isn't realy a priority for me and £400 is more of a whim than anything else but just about in the realms of possibility for me.
Also thanks for all your info.
Swat 4
the latest Rome total war
racing sims
I heard exactly the same thing about low quality components in dell pc's
i guess you get what you pay for. A gaming pc isn't realy a priority for me and £400 is more of a whim than anything else but just about in the realms of possibility for me. Also thanks for all your info.
Well, if you fancy a bit of an adventure, spec up a PC to 400 quid in parts and build it yourself. I forgot to include a power pack in that.
Modern components are pretty good at just putting them all together and them just working nowadays. Nothing like the swearing and fiddling about that pc builders used to have to put up with!
Medieval Total War 2 will hammer that machine to death if you turn it up to maximum pretty - my rig cost around 800-850 and it makes that chug a little with everything on and a massive battle.
The main thing I'd say, if you want to do a bit of photoshop and run the odd game the best thing you should spend on is another gig of memory. Also, you do right to go for XP (professional!) over vista, as vista will make that machine creak before you try to do anything. (The only reason I say that is that there has been performance benchmarking just been done on identical rigs, on eon XP and one of vista, and the performance more than halves.
Modern components are pretty good at just putting them all together and them just working nowadays. Nothing like the swearing and fiddling about that pc builders used to have to put up with!
Medieval Total War 2 will hammer that machine to death if you turn it up to maximum pretty - my rig cost around 800-850 and it makes that chug a little with everything on and a massive battle.
The main thing I'd say, if you want to do a bit of photoshop and run the odd game the best thing you should spend on is another gig of memory. Also, you do right to go for XP (professional!) over vista, as vista will make that machine creak before you try to do anything. (The only reason I say that is that there has been performance benchmarking just been done on identical rigs, on eon XP and one of vista, and the performance more than halves.
I wouldn't go anywhere near Mesh. I recently replaced my office system with Mesh computers. Their aftersales is useless, items that were ordered and paid for were never delivered, it took ages and repeated phone calls to get a refund. The warranty seems to be a waste of time, one of my computers has totally stopped working and despite having an on site warranty the best they can suggest is for me to restore factory settings and to hell with the instaled programmes etc. Just my personal experience....
I have to admit, I'd never buy a PC from a high street/internet shop again - use to have so many probs with PC's I bought, warranties not honoured properly, having to take the PC back to be repaired etc. I find now, oddly enough, that the warranties on the individual componants that I buy to put together myself are much, much better - for example, I have a WD Raptor HDD die on me, RMA'd it, 5 days later I recieved a brand new one, with double the capacity, from Germany! Same story with a motherboard, RAM and GPU over the past couple of years.
Honestly, building one yourself takes just a couple of hours, and you can get all the best parts within your price range without making any compromises anywhere, and the chances are that you'll do just as good a job, if not better than some of the ready made versions that seem at first glance such a bargain.
If that still scares you though, I have heard very good things about Evesham Computers - a lot more professional than some out there.
Honestly, building one yourself takes just a couple of hours, and you can get all the best parts within your price range without making any compromises anywhere, and the chances are that you'll do just as good a job, if not better than some of the ready made versions that seem at first glance such a bargain.
If that still scares you though, I have heard very good things about Evesham Computers - a lot more professional than some out there.
chris watton said:
If that still scares you though, I have heard very good things about Evesham Computers - a lot more professional than some out there.
I know I seem to mention them every damn time but Novatech are worth considering. I've used several of their machines (both upgrade bundles, laptops and full working towers) and the cables are all tidy, good air flow, etc. Had to RMA a mobo once but was pretty painless.
Going against the grain here. I bought a Mesh PC in 2001 when I set up my company. It was a fairly high-end machine specced to deal with 3D CAD. At the time it was running Windows ME and after about 18 months months of installing various software etc. it started freezing up.
Despite beign out of warranty, I got excellent service from their helpline and they told me to download a bios upgrade and told me over the phone what settings to change as I didn't have a clue.
I'm still using the PC today as a file and print server having installed XP Pro a few months ago and it's going great.
An excellent machine and far outlived my expectations.
Despite beign out of warranty, I got excellent service from their helpline and they told me to download a bios upgrade and told me over the phone what settings to change as I didn't have a clue.
I'm still using the PC today as a file and print server having installed XP Pro a few months ago and it's going great.
An excellent machine and far outlived my expectations.
bilko2 said:
Thanks guys
Although input is welcomed from all corners, don't you just hate it when doubt sets in with something you had your heart set on?
Although input is welcomed from all corners, don't you just hate it when doubt sets in with something you had your heart set on?
Then go for it. It'll either go wrong... or last the proverbial lifetime without a hitch. The same can be said for Evesham, Novatech, Dell, IBM, whoever. You want, go flash the cash and enjoy the goddies
In contrast to some of the other posters, I have had nothing but great service from Mesh, which is more than I can say for Evesham.
The Mesh boxes I have brought for myself & family have all been reasonably specced & well built for the price. No need for the aftersales as none of them have gone wrong.
The Mesh boxes I have brought for myself & family have all been reasonably specced & well built for the price. No need for the aftersales as none of them have gone wrong.
Another thumbs up for Mesh from me - I don't make big demands on my machine but it has run very reliably for the last 4 years, and as such I have not needed to contact their support. Will definitely consider them again.
My only issue is how you get the spec you need - it takes ages to compare the deals. My machine came with 4 speakers, sub-woofer, plus two speakers built in to the monitor - two externals would have suited me fine, but Mesh packaged the extras.
My only issue is how you get the spec you need - it takes ages to compare the deals. My machine came with 4 speakers, sub-woofer, plus two speakers built in to the monitor - two externals would have suited me fine, but Mesh packaged the extras.
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