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Have never owned one, but recently been drooling over low mileage example for sale by these guys: www.thehairpincompany.co.uk/
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I've got one and have had it for 9 years. Bought it with 6700 warranted miles on the clock in April 1998 and its now done 41000. It is a really awesome car, that handles well and goes like fcuk. I've also got a 997RS (done just under 2000 miles in it) and I always thought I would sell the LE when the RS was run in, but I'm not so sure now.
The RS is obviously quicker than the LE, but not as rewarding to drive. I track both cars and my lap times at Castle Combe are not that different yet - the RS is about a second quicker than the LE (1m 20s) and that is probably down to me not being good enough to make it go quicker. I have to work twice as hard driving the LE quickly, but that is the reward - you get a great sense of achievement when you nail a corner just right - I don't get that feeling in the RS, but maybe it will come when I get some more skill.
The LE spits 2' long flames on the overrun from high revs - the trackdayers love it and it's great for making some space on the motorway when some tw*t is right up your ass. It has a unique (to the LE) 4 pipe exhaust that looks the nuts and sounds terrific.
Porsche only made 53 globally of which 15 were right hand drive, so it's pretty rare. Every option available for the standard turbo was included in the LE, so they have limited slip diff, uprated suspension, any colour externally and internally (mine is Velvet Red with Velvet Red and Linen leather interior - looks fantastic), air con, unique front spoiler and side skirts, vented rear wings, unique 4 pipe exhaust and so on. In 1989 the new price was about £117,000 - CGT money in todays terms. Have a look at the picture in my profile.
The RS is obviously quicker than the LE, but not as rewarding to drive. I track both cars and my lap times at Castle Combe are not that different yet - the RS is about a second quicker than the LE (1m 20s) and that is probably down to me not being good enough to make it go quicker. I have to work twice as hard driving the LE quickly, but that is the reward - you get a great sense of achievement when you nail a corner just right - I don't get that feeling in the RS, but maybe it will come when I get some more skill.
The LE spits 2' long flames on the overrun from high revs - the trackdayers love it and it's great for making some space on the motorway when some tw*t is right up your ass. It has a unique (to the LE) 4 pipe exhaust that looks the nuts and sounds terrific.
Porsche only made 53 globally of which 15 were right hand drive, so it's pretty rare. Every option available for the standard turbo was included in the LE, so they have limited slip diff, uprated suspension, any colour externally and internally (mine is Velvet Red with Velvet Red and Linen leather interior - looks fantastic), air con, unique front spoiler and side skirts, vented rear wings, unique 4 pipe exhaust and so on. In 1989 the new price was about £117,000 - CGT money in todays terms. Have a look at the picture in my profile.
vipergreen said:
I've always thought that as cars evolved they always got better.
But I find myself being more and more interested in the older stuff.
I've seen a few Turbo LE's recently and they look awesome, anyone got one, had one are they much better than a standard 930 Turbo
But I find myself being more and more interested in the older stuff.
I've seen a few Turbo LE's recently and they look awesome, anyone got one, had one are they much better than a standard 930 Turbo
Yep. G50 gearbox, more power and torque and less turbo lag to mention a few. Factory turbo changes and the G50 gearbox make it a MUCH more tractable car to drive on the road. Get the geometry setup properly and not much will touch it.
carylwills said:
Porsche only made 53 globally of which 15 were right hand drive, so it's pretty rare. Every option available for the standard turbo was included in the LE, so they have limited slip diff, uprated suspension, any colour externally and internally (mine is Velvet Red with Velvet Red and Linen leather interior - looks fantastic), air con, unique front spoiler and side skirts, vented rear wings, unique 4 pipe exhaust and so on. In 1989 the new price was about £117,000 - CGT money in todays terms. Have a look at the picture in my profile.
50 UK RHD cars were built.
The 15 figure was an error in 911&PW some years back when they tested a 930LE. It was corrected in the following issue, but needless to say, the 15 figure was out there and the damage was done.
Interesting to see that some dealers are pushing the prices of 930LEs up into the mid £40ks, and I was told that one sold within the last month for £45k. Not at all sure where that leaves the man with £40k - £45k burning a hole in his pocket; 964 3.6, 993 turbo, 996 turbo.
Nice dilemma to grapple with.
Theres a very nice replica, not the usual old plastic rubbish, on PH Classifieds for abt £25k maybe even a tad less................was built for John Greasly in the days of Dage sport, metal fr wings and full 330 bhp , was then owned for abt 20 years by one of the Blue Coral sponsors ..................cossetted does nt begin to describe it in Anthracite grey ............saw it near Watford last week its a lot of car for the money! No its nothing to do with me other than i have a soft spot for these cars !
Raven 930 said:
Interesting to see that some dealers are pushing the prices of 930LEs up into the mid £40ks, and I was told that one sold within the last month for £45k. Not at all sure where that leaves the man with £40k - £45k burning a hole in his pocket; 964 3.6, 993 turbo, 996 turbo.
Nice dilemma to grapple with.
Yes, I've noticed that. I've seen them as cheap as £19k and the average price for a long time was mid £30s. To my mind they're like Aniiversario Countaches - you either like what they did to the standard car or you don't.
It's interesting to see a couple of John Greasley's Dage Sport cars up for sale at the moment. For example "911 RRT" is on the market at the moment - a car that I used to see a lot at Brands Hatch in the '80s.
To add to another statement, the G50 'box was standard on later "normal" 930s too. I'm willing to be proven wrong here, but didn't later cars also have the same engine (and thus bhp) as the LEs too?
It was RRT i was referring to.................depending on condition and this is mint ,if not original i reckon £25 is cheapish , obviously no one else does or they wud ave bought it!
There was a full factory flat nose abt 6 months ago in Penn went abt £30k , again reasonable car if u like white and Henry sold a similiar white all over LE for a bit more than £30k in last 3 months, needed small tidying low mileage[Sorry H] but representative ...................just cant see them over £40k being realistically priced . Remember original silver with CanCan red leather from Motor Show offered at abt £35k recently , seems to have gone
There was a full factory flat nose abt 6 months ago in Penn went abt £30k , again reasonable car if u like white and Henry sold a similiar white all over LE for a bit more than £30k in last 3 months, needed small tidying low mileage[Sorry H] but representative ...................just cant see them over £40k being realistically priced . Remember original silver with CanCan red leather from Motor Show offered at abt £35k recently , seems to have gone
sjwb said:
The G50 was standard on the 930, but was added to the turbo spec to replace the original 4 speed unit.
SJWB - Mr Bourne?....Caterham and bike owner?...
AgentOrange - I think RRT's up for about £22k now - it really is an excellent car and your comments on Blue Coral would tie-in with its frequent Brands appearances.
Did you have much to do with John Greasley? He had a great mechanic (IIRC a John too) who sadly died several years ago...
I owned the LE that was in 911 world,it was a great car ,very fast and fun.I had the car dynoed at it showed 342 bhp,not bad for a old car.The car was great fun to drive and the two foot flames were an added bonus.In fact my old car is for sale at the momment at about 28k i think.John Ward of the turbo register has the contact details.
Lots to do with Gr , used to live in Pinner where Dage once was ...........last saw him up in Aylesbury explaining after a rolling road , they have a good one , that he wud nt even run 1.4 bar for a pole setting lap !!! Explained why my GT2 went pop i guess!!!!!!!!!!!! Wealth of turbo knowledge ............and bit of a laugh is an understatement .............pity last seen racing Ferrari CS ........DISGRACEFUL , hes still quicker at 65 + with one eye than most of us wiv 2!!!
Agent Orange said:
It was RRT i was referring to.................depending on condition and this is mint ,if not original i reckon £25 is cheapish , obviously no one else does or they wud ave bought it!
Thanks for the compliment on the car Vic; truly appreciated coming from a conosseur like yourself....although the original topic was the 930LE and mine is a 930SE replica.
rubystone said:
To add to another statement, the G50 'box was standard on later "normal" 930s too. I'm willing to be proven wrong here, but didn't later cars also have the same engine (and thus bhp) as the LEs too?
As TEE said, the G50 was only fitted to 1989 930s, including the LE and SE versions. It was fitted to all other 911s with the introduction of the H-Series in 1986.
930 LE only shared its engine with the 930 SE (Flatnose) AFAIK. Standard 930 in 1989 was 300 bhp, 930 LE & SE were 330 bhp. Does anyone know when the 930 SE was first made and was it 330 bhp since launch. I thought most SE were made in 1987, 2 years before the LE was made, so did Porsche have the 330 bhp motor available since then or was it introduced in 1989?
Raven 930 said:
carylwills said:
Porsche only made 53 globally of which 15 were right hand drive, so it's pretty rare. Every option available for the standard turbo was included in the LE, so they have limited slip diff, uprated suspension, any colour externally and internally (mine is Velvet Red with Velvet Red and Linen leather interior - looks fantastic), air con, unique front spoiler and side skirts, vented rear wings, unique 4 pipe exhaust and so on. In 1989 the new price was about £117,000 - CGT money in todays terms. Have a look at the picture in my profile.
50 UK RHD cars were built.
The 15 figure was an error in 911&PW some years back when they tested a 930LE. It was corrected in the following issue, but needless to say, the 15 figure was out there and the damage was done.
Interesting to see that some dealers are pushing the prices of 930LEs up into the mid £40ks, and I was told that one sold within the last month for £45k. Not at all sure where that leaves the man with £40k - £45k burning a hole in his pocket; 964 3.6, 993 turbo, 996 turbo.
Nice dilemma to grapple with.
Thanks for putting me right Raven 930
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