he he...it broke down:(

[dmax]

well...back for 2 weeks near the griffith, was enjoying it since 3 days almost non stop till one hour ago, when it decided to stop for real. 3rd gear full throttle; than...nothing, no engine no light, nothing.
it seems like if the battery was taken off! in the dark and with my mecanical skill near zero level; only thing i could check it is the battery connections, which seems ok...but there is no more electricity AT ALL.

I guess it can not be any individual fuse as there is absolutly nothing which works? is that big 100 amp fuse has that effect when it goes wrong??
or exept directly to the battery, is there any area where a loose contact can cut off absolutky evevrything?

car is just 3 kilometres from home, tomorow morning will go back there, i guess i will take it back at home with a friend to try to check here more quietly...any suggestions about what to check very welcomed!!

[puffsorted2]

Blowing the 100 amp only has the effect of not charging the alternator, while you have battery power the car will still run OK, just with the charging light lit on the dashboard as the only obvious sign.

[Jay Ayegees]

Check if a previous owner fitted a cut-off switch - usually under the driver's side of the dash beside the steering column. If so the switch may have become dislodged. There is also an inertia cut-out switch behind the glovebox but that would only cut out the fuel pump.

The otyher possibility is a faulty immobiliser - try arming and disarming several times.

Edited by Jay Ayegees on Friday 11th May 05:26

Edited by Jay Ayegees on Friday 11th May 05:28

[spend]

Thats only for the fuel pump J.

If you have no power at all (lights...) Either battery lead could have come off ~ cant believe your battery would instantly have 0v.. Red is connected to starter motor, black to chassis under trans. tunnel.

A multimeter would help you to trace the fault reasonably quickly (a big bit of brown wire with a large spade along with some jump leads would probably enable you to get home).

Dave

[seasider]

Ignition wiring/fuse box ? or if some things are working possibly the low tension side of the coil..

[dmax]

spend said:

Thats only for the fuel pump J.

If you have no power at all (lights...) Either battery lead could have come off ~ cant believe your battery would instantly have 0v.. Red is connected to starter motor, black to chassis under trans. tunnel.



Dave

thanks
that;s the case, i have no power at all. Will go to tow it to home a bit later this afternnon as i don't feel up to tha task to investigate on location
So I will start to chek what you say, it would be cool if it is a jut a battery lead which is off, because if it is not...it will certainly be behond what i can check by myself.

maybe it is time to invest in multimeter

[apache]

The earth strap on the engine breaking would give those symptoms too, though I've never heard of one going on a Griff

[spend]

apache said:

The earth strap on the engine breaking would give those symptoms too, though I've never heard of one going on a Griff

How does the engine earth strap affect the lights then?

Dave

[apache]

spend said:

apache said:

The earth strap on the engine breaking would give those symptoms too, though I've never heard of one going on a Griff

How does the engine earth strap affect the lights then?

Dave

Ah good point....I was thinking of metal bodied cars

[simon.b]

I’ve had the big fuse go twice.

Second time I was driving home from a Back-Home in Blackpool along the M62. The fuse went but the car kept running the ignition light was probably glowing but it was a sunny day. I got to the point when the battery just couldn’t take any more and the car just stopped, totally dead as though out of petrol.

Towed away (didn’t twig the fuse at the time) fixed the fuse recharged the battery all was well.

Cheers,

Simon.

[spend]

apache said:

Ah good point....I was thinking of metal bodied cars

I was only being cheeky because I actually read the thread properly (for once)

Dave

[dmax]

car is at home, but "unfortunatly" battery lead to the starter is well connected...on the tunnel i have not checked yet.

when i connect directly the starter, it turns, but does not start, as no petrol arrive i guess.

if i find a multimeter, is there a logical step by step things to check? that's completly new to me , but i have the week-end to play on.
so for now, the only thing i know it is to the starter it goes, but it seems to be all

[spend]

dmax said:

when i connect directly the starter

What exactly did you connect to get the starter to turn?

Dave

[david beer]

Could be the 100a fuse between the battery and the fusebox, on the brown lead about 8in from the positive terminal. Thats if it has one !

[dmax]

spend said:

dmax said:

when i connect directly the starter

What exactly did you connect to get the starter to turn?

Dave

on the starter itself, the ignition arrival to the battery arrival. now i realise it is connected staight to the battery, so it is normal it works. Still when i tried it was in hoping it would start, but...no fuel pump does not help


I bought a little light to test, so now i see there is also electricity to the alternator, but as it is very new to me, i have not much idea what else to check with that thing!

[dmax]

david beer said:

Could be the 100a fuse between the battery and the fusebox, on the brown lead about 8in from the positive terminal. Thats if it has one !

i go to check that now! somebody else has suggested me to check if the fusebox gets electricity in checking to some fuse...so it seems i gonne to that area now!

[dmax]

david beer said:

Could be the 100a fuse between the battery and the fusebox, on the brown lead about 8in from the positive terminal. Thats if it has one !

you might be he winner!! yes it has one, and it is broken. in fact the main part is intact, but one of 2 sides inside the other part is...in 2 pieces! just have to find a new one tomorow, and hopefully it could be fixed!! in fact...it is a 80a?? is that supposed to be a 100a? is better to put back a 100a?

[pete500]

Use the original size. Sizing up fuses is a god way to make things melt and burn.. And what about the reason for breaking the fuse? A short to ground out in the net is taken care of by the smaller fuses, so look and smell carefully around the fuse box.
pt

[spend]

If you do have one of the cars where everything except the starter goes thru the "alt" fuse I would advise adding an alternate link to the fusebox (with its own fuse inside if you want) the ign light would then come on if the alt fuse broke.

Dave

[david beer]

dmax said:

david beer said:

Could be the 100a fuse between the battery and the fusebox, on the brown lead about 8in from the positive terminal. Thats if it has one !

you might be he winner!! yes it has one, and it is broken. in fact the main part is intact, but one of 2 sides inside the other part is...in 2 pieces! just have to find a new one tomorow, and hopefully it could be fixed!! in fact...it is a 80a?? is that supposed to be a 100a? is better to put back a 100a?

I was only saying 100a from memory, mine broke many years ago. They tend to break rather than blow, i replaced the whole lead with a soldered fuse in line so it can not break again.