Is my car too slow?

Is my car too slow?

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The DJ 27

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2,666 posts

253 months

Sunday 11th May 2003
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I've got a totally unmodified SEAT Ibiza 1.4, got 75bhp. I'd lighten the car as much as possible before I do a trackday, but I'm just wondering if it's basically too slow to be any fun? Bookatrack's day at Angelsey is what I'm looking at

PetrolTed

34,428 posts

303 months

Sunday 11th May 2003
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It'll still be fun because you can push it far harder than you would ever dare on the road. Don't miss out on the fun because you think it might be too slow. Try it and see.

The DJ 27

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2,666 posts

253 months

Sunday 11th May 2003
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I was more thinking that i'm going to spend the entire day getting out of peoples way and basically annoying all the caterhams and westfields etc by being really slow (by their standards) through the corners

PetrolTed

34,428 posts

303 months

Sunday 11th May 2003
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Don't worry about that. Just be courteous and it needn't be a problem unless the organisers are letting too many cars on track at once.

At Folembray over the weekend we had Radicals circulating amongst cars with half their pace without any problems.

The DJ 27

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2,666 posts

253 months

Sunday 11th May 2003
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Ok, thanks. You think Angelsey is a good circuit to start on? I've never done a trackday before (although i have driven on a track), and since im a poor student, it works out pretty well since the day is only £119

robp

5,770 posts

264 months

Sunday 11th May 2003
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The DJ 27 said: Ok, thanks. You think Angelsey is a good circuit to start on? I've never done a trackday before (although i have driven on a track), and since im a poor student, it works out pretty well since the day is only £119



I'm doing the Elvington trackday with www.bookatrack.com on Aug 2nd. As a student I know what you mean and airfields are good if cost is important (allows more in the union!). THe day is £99 if you have your own car.

sjg

7,452 posts

265 months

Monday 12th May 2003
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Not a problem at all, and in fact Anglesey is probably as good as it gets for lower-powered cars, no big long straights or brake-killing stops. Have seen plenty of cars with less power at trackdays and the only difference is they're lapping slower - the owners are still having plenty of fun.

Bookatrack days are overtaking by consent, just keep checking your mirrors, then indicate and move aside where you can. The sevens are used to everything else holding them up

Bruce Fielding

2,244 posts

282 months

Monday 12th May 2003
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Check elsewhere on PH for advice about first track days - most important thing is to gain confidence - so airfield days where there's nothing to hit if you make a mistake are a good start...

quistii

51 posts

282 months

Thursday 15th May 2003
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I've been up to Anglesey with Bookatrack and I'd say that it's a fantastic circuit for first timers in their own cars - even a 1.4l Ibiza. Bookatrack attract a variety of drivers of varying experience. Most of regulars are very welcoming and you should blag as many passenger rides as possible. Worth getting in touch with Jonny Leroux at BaT and letting him know your concerns.

£119 might seem cheap for track hire, but don't forget tyres, petrol, brakes, clutches, engine wear that will significantly stress your car. Insurance is also a consideration.

For these reasons, I've sold my Elise and use BaT's Caterham now at trackdays. It looks more expensive, but I was spending £1k-£2k/year servicing an Elise for 2-3 track days/year. A shared Caterham works out much cheaper, and huge fun.

F355GTS

3,723 posts

255 months

Friday 16th May 2003
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DJ

my nephew ran an Ibiza 1.4 at a few days with Easytrack and had great fun. Steve (Get) Carter took some pics and video
see pics here
www.stevecarter.com/wroughton2/pics.htm

hilarious video of it here
www.stevecarter.com/wroughton2/schoolrun.mpg

Jonathan T

52 posts

280 months

Saturday 17th May 2003
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Unless outright speed is your thing you'll have as much fun as anyone, probably more. You'll be able to get to the limits of your car much easier than most of the faster cars. Go in the novices group and you'll be fine. Anglesey is a good track, plenty of runoff in most corners, not too fast with some challenging corners. I've still not been through School corner at top whack. If you're in a standard car then be careful with your brakes, you'll easily overheat them if your are the last of the late brakers. If you're going in June I'll look out for you!

The DJ 27

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2,666 posts

253 months

Monday 19th May 2003
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Might be postponing it now. Decided i want to sell the Ibiza and buy something more fun (205 GTi is looking good at the moment), so it might have to wait until next year. Thanks for the good advice tho

900T-R

20,404 posts

257 months

Monday 26th May 2003
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He're another stupid question from a trackday virgin (actually, that's not entirely true - I've been on a track once or twice during my days as a journo - only never in my own car and I thought I was driving rather badly at the MG ZR/ZS/ZT press lauch in Anglesey, so that experience did not do much for confidence).

Would it be a stupid idea to take my low powered daily runabout ('95 Citroën ZX 1.4, 75 bhp, trade-in value about 1,300 euro...) for my first outing instead of my 'weekend fun car' that I've been building over the past couple of years and, while by no means a Seven or Radical, might be a bit scary to unleash for the first time (with a projected 270-300ish bhp, 1,200 kgs kerb weight and FWD, still looking into LSD options that won't interfere with normal steering/braking behaviour...)?
Any advanced driving courses (if possible, on my side of the Channel rather than yours) you folks would recommend to gain a bit of confidence before sharing track space with more experience drivers?
As you can see, I'm not that confident about my own driving. It's not being slow in itself or getting overenthusiastic and crash into the barriers I'm worried about, it's more getting distracted by letting everyone else pass through which I reckon could interfere with my desire not to hit anything... TBH, at the MG event I was so anxious I couldn't even remember where the pit lane entrance was...

CraigAlsop

1,991 posts

268 months

Monday 26th May 2003
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900T-R said: I thought I was driving rather badly at the MG ZR/ZS/ZT press lauch in Anglesey, so that experience did not do much for confidence).
I would imagine that it didn't help that you were probably sitting the wrong side of the car compared to what you were used to.


Would it be a stupid idea to take my low powered daily runabout ('95 Citroën ZX 1.4, 75 bhp, trade-in value about 1,300 euro...) for my first outing instead of my 'weekend fun car' that I've been building over the past couple of years
I'm sure you can have plenty of fun in the ZX - should mean that you'll be less worried about thrashing it, so you can really enjoy the car.
Dunno about any driving courses your side of the channel - I can recommend some over here though

900T-R

20,404 posts

257 months

Tuesday 27th May 2003
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I would imagine that it didn't help that you were probably sitting the wrong side of the car compared to what you were used to.


Yes, I'd like to think that made a big part of it. The drive to the track was my very first RHD experience, and on the second day of the launch trip I did not have any problems with it anymore, punting 'my' bright yellow ZS 180 along with confidence and at a good pace, where on Day 1, I regularly heard the tell tale rumble of the white lines indicating I was rather too close to the kerb. Hit the kerb with the left front wheel (leaving a nice scrape) when returning from the track in a ZR, too, when I had to make a three point turn in front of the hotel...

Anyweays, thanks for the heads up