Crash barrier design

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Plastic chicken

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380 posts

205 months

Sunday 13th May 2007
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In my job driving around Scotland, I've noticed that the roads people are replacing the sloping ends of metal crash barriers with a vertical yellow & black plate, which I assume is energy-absorbing to some degree. I concede that the old design could cause vehicles to overturn, but I'm concerned that a direct hit to one of these plates, an immovable object, at motorway speeds will wreck a vehicle & its occupants.
Does anybody have knowledge of the research behind this engineering? Opinions welcome.

Vaux

1,557 posts

217 months

Sunday 13th May 2007
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Plastic chicken said:
In my job driving around Scotland, I've noticed that the roads people are replacing the sloping ends of metal crash barriers with a vertical yellow & black plate, which I assume is energy-absorbing to some degree. Opinions welcome.

Maybe it's to stop the vehicle from possibly launching itself off into a field?

TripleS

4,294 posts

243 months

Sunday 13th May 2007
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Vaux said:
Plastic chicken said:
In my job driving around Scotland, I've noticed that the roads people are replacing the sloping ends of metal crash barriers with a vertical yellow & black plate, which I assume is energy-absorbing to some degree. Opinions welcome.

Maybe it's to stop the vehicle from possibly launching itself off into a field?



The sudden stop when you hit the vertical barrier (even an energy absorbing one) sounds to me less appealing than being deflected off into a field.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

Vaux

1,557 posts

217 months

Sunday 13th May 2007
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TripleS said:
The sudden stop when you hit the vertical barrier (even an energy absorbing one) sounds to me less appealing than being deflected off into a field.

Not sure. A nice, relatively safe stop or being launched skywards, to roll and land upside down in a river or on another road? Or bouncing sideways across onto the opposite carriageway into the path of poor innocent motorists?

Maybe I should write for Brake?

AL666

2,679 posts

219 months

Sunday 13th May 2007
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I've noticed this over the past few months too, seems like a lose-lose situation to me, unless the new barriers are significantly more cushioned than they look...

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 13th May 2007
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I think it was Fifth Gear that tested them both - might be able to find it on YouTube or Google Video. IIRC, the sloping end rolled the car a couple of times but the new style stopped the car in quite a controlled manner.

Slowly Slowly

2,474 posts

225 months

Thursday 24th May 2007
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I have witness a Ford Sierra hitting a section of hard shoulder crash barrier just at the point where it raised up out the ground, the car hit it sideways at about 50 mph after fish tailing out of control, he fell asleep and passed me up the HS he flicked left then right then left agian then rode up the crash barrier at 90 degrees passenger side first.
No harm done, IMO a light weight car would ride on top of it like a scalextric car and a medium truck or heavy car would flatten it while staying on it.
Unfortunatly 2 guys in a car on a wet night lost control and hit some fault barrier and it entered their car like a hot knife in butter and removed all four legs, they where Jehovah's witnesses and blood tranfusions where refused, one died , one lived.
After that they all seemed to be changed, I think they are more dangerous but what do I know.

razerwire

188 posts

212 months

Thursday 24th May 2007
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TripleS said:
Vaux said:
Plastic chicken said:
In my job driving around Scotland, I've noticed that the roads people are replacing the sloping ends of metal crash barriers with a vertical yellow & black plate, which I assume is energy-absorbing to some degree. Opinions welcome.
Maybe it's to stop the vehicle from possibly launching itself off into a field?
The sudden stop when you hit the vertical barrier (even an energy absorbing one) sounds to me less appealing than being deflected off into a field.

Best wishes all,
Dave.
Or, being deflected, and whilst in mid air your car ends up somersaulting so it hits - roof first - at 60+ MPH killing all the occupants instantly.

Well, natural selection I suppose.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 24th May 2007
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Slowly Slowly said:
Unfortunatly 2 guys in a car on a wet night lost control and hit some fault barrier and it entered their car like a hot knife in butter and removed all four legs, they where Jehovah's witnesses and blood tranfusions where refused, one died , one lived.
scratchchinhttp://www.ridedrive.co.uk/article-vbcrash.htm