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levensnevel

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245 posts

301 months

Wednesday 14th November 2001
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Sad news from the country that gave you the Gatso speedtrap.
Dutch police have found a new device to catch speeding motorists which is even beter.
All laser detectors and GPS based detection systems are rendered useless.
It originates from Germany and is nicknamed 'lichtschranke' as it works with rays of light.
You can find full details on:
www.radarfalle.de/technik/ueberwachungstechnik/eso4.php
So be extra carefull because I am pretty sure that these devices will cross the channel pretty soon

Levensnevel

tuscan_v8

2,496 posts

313 months

Wednesday 14th November 2001
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But it is in dutch!

philshort

8,293 posts

306 months

Wednesday 14th November 2001
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Its always too dark and dismal here for that to work then!

levensnevel

Original Poster:

245 posts

301 months

Wednesday 14th November 2001
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Sorry Tuscan,

that is not Dutch; the website is in German .
If I have some time to spare I will try to translate the essence of the article into English.

Levensnevel

Neil Menzies

5,167 posts

313 months

Wednesday 14th November 2001
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But it is in dutch!


Go to http://world.altavista.com/sites/gben/pos/babelfish/trns select "German to English" and enter the URL...

Not great translation, but it sort of works..

levensnevel

Original Poster:

245 posts

301 months

Wednesday 14th November 2001
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So Neil,

You are warned now, so don't complain if you are caught
In our country the Police is using this mobile device between fixed speedtraps. And it is difficult to detect when you drive along the road.

Levensnevel

Marv

158 posts

302 months

Wednesday 14th November 2001
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But remember this device isnt approved for use in the UK so we should be safe from it for a while. Acording to reports Specs took 6 yrs or something like that to get approved..

WalterU

470 posts

306 months

Wednesday 14th November 2001
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"Lichtschranke" translates to light beam or light guard. Basically, its two light beams a fixed distance apart, you trigger a timer when your drive through them. Your speed is calculated based on the time you take between beam 1 and 2.
No rocket science, but because it doesn't use laser or radio waves, its undetectable. I've been cought by one in Germany.

Rgds, WalterU

hertsbiker

6,443 posts

300 months

Wednesday 14th November 2001
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yeah, but can it be logged with Geodesy?! if so, then no problem!

nonegreen

7,803 posts

299 months

Wednesday 14th November 2001
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It can certainly be made ito a sepository! for President Blair???

WalterU

470 posts

306 months

Thursday 15th November 2001
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yeah, but can it be logged with Geodesy?! if so, then no problem!



at least in Germany these are not stationary systems. The bosche use them as mobile systems, so no logging possible. Radar detector won't get them either.

Rgds, WalterU

WoodE

39 posts

298 months

Thursday 15th November 2001
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Thats one ugly speed cam.

They could atleast make it look nice, after all, we are gonna be paying for it if it comes over here.

Wonder what Tony's reply would be to us asking for a prettier camera instead of banning the mis-use of them.

Interesting...

mel

10,168 posts

304 months

Thursday 15th November 2001
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Isn't an "attractive speed camera" a bit of an oxymoron.

Nick M (nmilton)

449 posts

311 months

Thursday 15th November 2001
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For some bizarre reason it reminds me of the robot from the Short Circuit films.

www.johnny-five.com/

I *really* need to get out more....


guysh

2,272 posts

312 months

Friday 16th November 2001
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There will be a way to deflect the light or screw up the signal somehow - there always is....

mattjbatch

1,502 posts

300 months

Friday 16th November 2001
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There will be a way to deflect the light or screw up the signal somehow - there always is....



Unfortunately these things work like the trip lazers like in mission impossible. ie activated when the light beam broken. That means it would be almost impossible to deflect the light around your car without setting up some sort of elaborate system of lenses or mirrors at the road side. It'll be a bugger when they get over here.

Matt

Marshy

2,751 posts

313 months

Friday 16th November 2001
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So a couple of maglites pointing sideways gaffa'd to the front of my car won't do it???

Nick M (nmilton)

449 posts

311 months

Friday 16th November 2001
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Maybe we should all take the piss and get timing struts fitted to the front of our cars !!

WoodE

39 posts

298 months

Friday 16th November 2001
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timing struts?

Sorry, don't know owt about cars bar how to drive em (and the basic stuff like pistons etc)

WoodE

39 posts

298 months

Friday 16th November 2001
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Unfortunately these things work like the trip lazers like in mission impossible. ie activated when the light beam broken. That means it would be almost impossible to deflect the light around your car without setting up some sort of elaborate system of lenses or mirrors at the road side. It'll be a bugger when they get over here.

Matt



So they take your speed by having you pass through the light beam, which then detects how long the beam is broken for?

If not, then they rely on light being returned to the camera? in which case water will deflect it.