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Have a look at this, to have one of these in the UK is not illegal - i dont think.
To keep one in your car and if for the purposes of self defence you were required to use this in excersising reasonable force (knee caps, arms)(Definately not head,neck ect) then could this activity of having this in your car for the purposes of self defence and using it - what would be the legal consequences of this?
Have a look at this, to have one of these in the UK is not illegal - i dont think.
To keep one in your car and if for the purposes of self defence you were required to use this in excersising reasonable force (knee caps, arms)(Definately not head,neck ect) then could this activity of having this in your car for the purposes of self defence and using it - what would be the legal consequences of this?
It's commonly called an ASP and is illegal to have in your possession outside your home, ie in a public place = an offensive weapon.
In the UK it is only legal for the police to possess/use. Even then they have to be trained and 'authorised' to use it, and undergo an annual retraining/re-authorisation day.
As it has only one purpose...to assault a person, there cannot be a lawful reason for Joe Sope Public to possess one.
In the UK it is only legal for the police to possess/use. Even then they have to be trained and 'authorised' to use it, and undergo an annual retraining/re-authorisation day.
As it has only one purpose...to assault a person, there cannot be a lawful reason for Joe Sope Public to possess one.
Edited by XMG5 on Thursday 24th May 12:49
saxmund said:
It might be technically legal to own one, just as it's legal to own a knife. But if you kept one in your car for the purposes of defending yourself should the need arise, I am sure there is some form of "carrying a deadly weapon with intent" crime you would be guilty of.
It could be worse. It could be an egg ... with intent to throw 
- Streaky
Not much good if your name's Adam though....Guys we discuss this topic of legal/ illegal weapons a lot with our self defence instructors, as was pointed out this baton has only one purpose, to harm somebody, there are far better things to carry in your car that can easily be explained.
For example a cricket or Baseball bat, but make sure you have the relevant ball, glove stumps to back up any claim you use it for recreational purposes.
A 3 ft long breaker bar, so long as its backed up by a toolkit of sorts (much easier to justify if your car is slightly older), large maglite, or other long torch, very easy to justify. A jack handle, again just make sure you have the actual jack.
Having the implement is one thing, knowing how to use it and having the balls to use it is another matter.
For example a cricket or Baseball bat, but make sure you have the relevant ball, glove stumps to back up any claim you use it for recreational purposes.
A 3 ft long breaker bar, so long as its backed up by a toolkit of sorts (much easier to justify if your car is slightly older), large maglite, or other long torch, very easy to justify. A jack handle, again just make sure you have the actual jack.
Having the implement is one thing, knowing how to use it and having the balls to use it is another matter.
tvrslag said:
A 3 ft long breaker bar, so long as its backed up by a toolkit of sorts (much easier to justify if your car is slightly older), large maglite, or other long torch, very easy to justify.
I drive an "old" car and I dont have the original toolkit for it so along with the original scissor jack, I carry a 3ft breaker bar and relevant sockets to change a wheel, in case of emergencies Ocifer 
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