Advice after accident
Advice after accident
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mikeg996

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875 posts

252 months

Friday 25th May 2007
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A very apologetic gentleman wrote his Renault Laguna off on Sunday, using the back of my 911. I'm speaking to my insurance company and broker (A-Plan) who are very bullish about getting me a rental car, following up with a legal claim for decrease in value of the vehicle, etc., etc. In fact, they are being pushy enough that I'm wondering if they're acting in my best interests. Does anyone have any views?


superlightr

12,920 posts

293 months

Friday 25th May 2007
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you may have to appoint your own loss adjuster to help your claim.

Norwich Onion direct paid up in full for my 996tt when written off and hire car for 2 weeks as per the policy.

If there was going to be a dispute then I would ahve appointed my own loss adjuster.

NeVeTaS

508 posts

261 months

Friday 25th May 2007
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is your a plan insurance underwritten by markus study?

Geneve

4,019 posts

249 months

Friday 25th May 2007
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mikeg996

Original Poster:

875 posts

252 months

Friday 25th May 2007
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NeVeTaS said:
is your a plan insurance underwritten by markus study?
No, Group AMA.

mikeg996

Original Poster:

875 posts

252 months

Friday 25th May 2007
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Geneve said:
I think Performance Car Hire are involved. Not sure I want/need a hire car, though, it's only a weekend car.

subaqua

892 posts

242 months

Friday 25th May 2007
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Try the following.... adccident management consultants who deal with accident damage where no fault can be attributed to you. They have sorted out a few mates with like-for-like loan cars.

The chap also posts on here as anniesdad

http://www.europaconsultants.co.uk/

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

261 months

Friday 25th May 2007
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They're only being pushy as referrals for car hire and legal cases will form part of their revenue model. Consider whether you need either over their need for revenue, but if you do need them, dont hesitate to use them or excellent chappies like Anniesdad.

supermono

7,464 posts

278 months

Friday 25th May 2007
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Telephone the accident exchange. They gave me an M3 while the M5 was being looked at. Very very professional and seemed to have the means for depreciation claims after accident repair too.

If your insurance aren't helping you, it's a shame because it'll end up costing the 3rd party's insurer (and therefore all of us) more but at the end of the day if Stevie Wonder hadn't smacked you up everyone would be happy...

SM

mikeg996

Original Poster:

875 posts

252 months

Friday 25th May 2007
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supermono said:
Telephone the accident exchange. They gave me an M3 while the M5 was being looked at. Very very professional and seemed to have the means for depreciation claims after accident repair too.

If your insurance aren't helping you, it's a shame because it'll end up costing the 3rd party's insurer (and therefore all of us) more but at the end of the day if Stevie Wonder hadn't smacked you up everyone would be happy...

SM
I'm actually having the opposite problem! Everybody's so keen to help that they're falling over themselves to give me replacement cars, legal cases, etc.

Really I want the thing written off.

supermono

7,464 posts

278 months

Friday 25th May 2007
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mikeg996 said:
Really I want the thing written off.
Oh I'm sorry! Wrong end of the stick...

SM

Davey S2

13,394 posts

284 months

Friday 25th May 2007
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Speak to anniesdad on PH

He has handled claims for several people on here successfully

mikeg996

Original Poster:

875 posts

252 months

Friday 25th May 2007
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Just spoken to somebody involved with the claim, and he's suggesting that there's no opportunity for me to claim for any loss in value of the car because of the accident (repair work notwithstanding, obviously). Someone else at the legal company says the opposite!

Question: if you drove a front-engined car into another car at 20mph, would you expect it to be a write-off?

phelix

4,683 posts

279 months

Friday 25th May 2007
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mikeg996 said:
I'm actually having the opposite problem! Everybody's so keen to help that they're falling over themselves to give me replacement cars, legal cases, etc.

Really I want the thing written off.
A lot of those outfits earn a tidy percentage cut on everything they're able to get for you hence they're quite willing to be helpful. While I certainly don't think you should be out of pocket for something that wasn't your fault don't let them get too carried away; their revenue and profit are ultimately paid for by the motoring public. TNSTAAFL

Silent1

19,762 posts

265 months

Friday 25th May 2007
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mikeg996 said:
Just spoken to somebody involved with the claim, and he's suggesting that there's no opportunity for me to claim for any loss in value of the car because of the accident (repair work notwithstanding, obviously). Someone else at the legal company says the opposite!

Question: if you drove a front-engined car into another car at 20mph, would you expect it to be a write-off?
Call Anniesdad (steve) at Europa Consultants on 0161 447 8986, he'll be able to give you sound advice

Storer

5,024 posts

245 months

Friday 25th May 2007
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I doubt they will write it off if the accident was only at 20mph. Has it pushed everything up against the engine? Which looked worse the Renault or your Porsche?

The trouble is that (as I am sure you are thinking) your car has been in a shunt. If a buyer asks you if it has ever had a shunt you have to say yes and as there are plenty of good cars around he will probably go elsewhere, and you will have to drop the price of yours to sell it. Will the insurance company reimburse you for the reduced value of your vehicle, I think not.

Sometimes life sucks frown

Wetwipe

3,019 posts

243 months

Monday 28th May 2007
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Storer said:
I doubt they will write it off if the accident was only at 20mph. Has it pushed everything up against the engine? Which looked worse the Renault or your Porsche?

The trouble is that (as I am sure you are thinking) your car has been in a shunt. If a buyer asks you if it has ever had a shunt you have to say yes and as there are plenty of good cars around he will probably go elsewhere, and you will have to drop the price of yours to sell it. Will the insurance company reimburse you for the reduced value of your vehicle, I think not.

Sometimes life sucks frown
the final point you make is a legitimate legal head of claim in negligence cases called Dimminution and allows for someone to claim for the drop in value of a car based upon the circumstances you describe.

a court will always look at such matters in black and white terms - two identical cars for sale. same price, mileage, specification.

one has been involved in an accident, the other hasnt - which one will a prospective purchaser go for?

whilst this is a legitimate head of damage actually quantifying the loss is a little more difficult.

SidewaysSid

523 posts

288 months

Monday 28th May 2007
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supermono said:
Telephone the accident exchange. They gave me an M3 while the M5 was being looked at. Very very professional and seemed to have the means for depreciation claims after accident repair too.

If your insurance aren't helping you, it's a shame because it'll end up costing the 3rd party's insurer (and therefore all of us) more but at the end of the day if Stevie Wonder hadn't smacked you up everyone would be happy...

SM
Two weeks ago I was parked outside a customers house when one of his neighbours reversed into my car. Not major damage and car was still roadworthy. Accident exchange delivered a car to my office and took my car to be repaired. Very little effort on my part but the fact that the other guy admitted liability to the insurance company might have eased things in my favour. Upon delivery the car had 160 miles on the clock and is higher spec and bigger engine than my car. My work car is an Audi A4 2.5 Tdi Quattro saloon. The car suplied is an Audi A4 2.7 Tdi S line with a very high spec. No rush to get mine back, take all the time you like...

Wetwipe

3,019 posts

243 months

Monday 28th May 2007
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SidewaysSid said:
supermono said:
Telephone the accident exchange. They gave me an M3 while the M5 was being looked at. Very very professional and seemed to have the means for depreciation claims after accident repair too.

If your insurance aren't helping you, it's a shame because it'll end up costing the 3rd party's insurer (and therefore all of us) more but at the end of the day if Stevie Wonder hadn't smacked you up everyone would be happy...

SM
Two weeks ago I was parked outside a customers house when one of his neighbours reversed into my car. Not major damage and car was still roadworthy. Accident exchange delivered a car to my office and took my car to be repaired. Very little effort on my part but the fact that the other guy admitted liability to the insurance company might have eased things in my favour. Upon delivery the car had 160 miles on the clock and is higher spec and bigger engine than my car. My work car is an Audi A4 2.5 Tdi Quattro saloon. The car suplied is an Audi A4 2.7 Tdi S line with a very high spec. No rush to get mine back, take all the time you like...
yup and the other drivers insurance will pay

no problem you say. until we all moan when insurance premiums go up