exhaust manifold bolts
exhaust manifold bolts
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gritbox

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125 posts

234 months

Sunday 27th May 2007
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Had the misfortune of losing an exhaust manifold bolt the other day, Noticed the exhaust was blowing on the way home from work, but the little blighter made a break for freedom 2 miles from home (heard it fall out). Try as I might, I couldnt find it. The original owner of the car has some spares he is going to send me so no probs there, but has anyone else had problems with the bolts working loose? I had to go round the whole engine and tighten them all...some were very loose... I didnt tink bolts worked loose, even if the heads are helicoiled??

GTWayne

4,595 posts

246 months

Sunday 27th May 2007
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Must have not been tightened correctly in the first place. Ordinarily as the exhaust manifold heats up it should expand enough to ensure that bolts coming loose does not happen.

gritbox

Original Poster:

125 posts

234 months

Sunday 27th May 2007
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thats what I thought Wayne, However I did notice what looks like coppaslip residue (or some lubricant)on the threads. Guess that doesnt help. Once I get the replacement, I intend to go round and remove all the bolts, clean them with brake cleaner and apply loctite (non permanent) to the threads.

By the way, saw your car at Stoneleigh, it looks ACE. Just love that engine lick

GTWayne

4,595 posts

246 months

Sunday 27th May 2007
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gritbox said:
s.By the way, saw your car at Stoneleigh, it looks ACE. Just love that engine lick
Thanks, glad you like it thumbup

Steve_D

13,802 posts

287 months

Sunday 27th May 2007
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It is not unusual for them to come loose for the very reason that they keep getting heated and cooled.
Took three successive tightens before mine finally stayed put.

Steve

crafty

2,291 posts

266 months

Monday 28th May 2007
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GTWayne said:
gritbox said:
s.By the way, saw your car at Stoneleigh, it looks ACE. Just love that engine lick
Thanks, glad you like it thumbup
When are we gonna see photos?

GTWayne

4,595 posts

246 months

Monday 28th May 2007
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^ For the love of God man, how many photo's do you want? hehe

crafty

2,291 posts

266 months

Monday 28th May 2007
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sorry... I meant engine shots

GTWayne

4,595 posts

246 months

Monday 28th May 2007
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^ As it is not a LS motor, I did not think that anyone would be interested tumbleweed

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

289 months

Monday 28th May 2007
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gritbox said:
, However I did notice what looks like coppaslip residue (or some lubricant)on the threads. Guess that doesnt help. Once I get the replacement, I intend to go round and remove all the bolts, clean them with brake cleaner and apply loctite (non permanent) to the threads.
If it helps I'd suggest they need some decent spring washers on them to allow for expansion & contraction. Also it would be much better if you used studs and not bolts.

Boosted.

Steve_D

13,802 posts

287 months

Monday 28th May 2007
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Boosted LS1 said:
gritbox said:
, However I did notice what looks like coppaslip residue (or some lubricant)on the threads. Guess that doesnt help. Once I get the replacement, I intend to go round and remove all the bolts, clean them with brake cleaner and apply loctite (non permanent) to the threads.
If it helps I'd suggest they need some decent spring washers on them to allow for expansion & contraction. Also it would be much better if you used studs and not bolts.

Boosted.
The gap between each pipe does not leave enough room for either nut or washer. The bolts used are the type with 12 point hex on the outside giving a reduced head diameter.

Steve

eliot

11,995 posts

283 months

Monday 28th May 2007
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gritbox said:
However I did notice what looks like coppaslip residue (or some lubricant)on the threads...and apply loctite (non permanent) to the threads.
Are you using ally heads? - I really wouldn't locktight them in there. Ive always applied copperslip to my bolts and never lost one yet. The copperslip stops them corroding and tearing out the threads when you remove them. As Mike suggested, use spring washers (if they will fit between the flanges) and just make sure they are reasonably tight. I doesn't hurt to check them now and then either.

eliot

11,995 posts

283 months

Monday 28th May 2007
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Steve_D said:
The gap between each pipe does not leave enough room for either nut or washer. The bolts used are the type with 12 point hex on the outside giving a reduced head diameter.
Steve
I'm using cap head bolts and these funky flat grippy type flat washers (they are serrated as opposed to traditional split washers).

A quick google found them:
http://www.springmasters.com/disc-springs/serrated...

Edited by eliot on Monday 28th May 10:21

crafty

2,291 posts

266 months

Monday 28th May 2007
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GTWayne said:
^ As it is not a LS motor, I did not think that anyone would be interested tumbleweed
Im very interested to see it.... just make sure you clean the oil off it before you take the photos.


GTRMikie

874 posts

277 months

Monday 28th May 2007
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Steve_D said:
Took three successive tightens before mine finally stayed put.

Steve
Same for me (and I still check them fairly regularly)

Steve_D

13,802 posts

287 months

Monday 28th May 2007
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eliot said:
Steve_D said:
The gap between each pipe does not leave enough room for either nut or washer. The bolts used are the type with 12 point hex on the outside giving a reduced head diameter.
Steve
I'm using cap head bolts and these funky flat grippy type flat washers (they are serrated as opposed to traditional split washers).

A quick google found them:
http://www.springmasters.com/disc-springs/serrated...

Edited by eliot on Monday 28th May 10:21
Called SCHNORR washers by the guys who invented them. Serrated belleville washers buy the guys who nicked the idea.

Top notch washer though.

Steve

GTWayne

4,595 posts

246 months

Monday 28th May 2007
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crafty said:
GTWayne said:
^ As it is not a LS motor, I did not think that anyone would be interested tumbleweed
Im very interested to see it.... just make sure you clean the oil off it before you take the photos.
Even with the oil cleaned of off of it Grant it is not much to look at I am afraid. There is not much shiny stuff and an awful lot of BLACK with a bit of blue and red thrown in for good measure. It is more than powerful enough but you will not be able to see that in a mere photograph biggrin

SimonMaidenhead

2,650 posts

232 months

Monday 28th May 2007
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GTWayne said:
crafty said:
GTWayne said:
^ As it is not a LS motor, I did not think that anyone would be interested tumbleweed
Im very interested to see it.... just make sure you clean the oil off it before you take the photos.
Even with the oil cleaned of off of it Grant it is not much to look at I am afraid. There is not much shiny stuff and an awful lot of BLACK with a bit of blue and red thrown in for good measure. It is more than powerful enough but you will not be able to see that in a mere photograph biggrin
Any idea of the cost of a respray? Mine just wont be quick enough till it's all sprayed BLACK

GTWayne

4,595 posts

246 months

Monday 28th May 2007
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SimonMaidenhead said:
Any idea of the cost of a respray? Mine just wont be quick enough till it's all sprayed BLACK
You are not allowed to spray a Maclaren orange CanAm BLACK, it is against the law! hehe
But seriously, any luck with moving on the Porka yet?

highflyer

1,901 posts

255 months

Monday 28th May 2007
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Yo Simonmaidenhead when you do eventually pick the Canam up, don't forget to put some petrol in it, the black ones tend to be even quicker then laugh