Porsche 996 cup V Porsche 997 cup
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I thought you'd find this interesting. These are two clips that graphically illustrate the differences between driving a 996 and 997 cup. The first clip is Chris Harris driving a 997 Cup at Snetterton and the second is me driving the 996 cup at the same circuit. The 997 make the 996 look like a bit of a handfull
Steve R
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I thought you'd find this interesting. These are two clips that graphically illustrate the differences between driving a 996 and 997 cup. The first clip is Chris Harris driving a 997 Cup at Snetterton and the second is me driving the 996 cup at the same circuit. The 997 make the 996 look like a bit of a handfull
Steve R
http://tinyurl.com/2jtv38
http://www.fastfilms.co.uk/images/SteveSnethotlap....
Yep, the 997 is much better to drive then a 996!
997 is stiffer (does not roll as much), it's easier to catch a slide on the limit and has better overall grip then the 996. My British GT pole lap in 2004 with the Motorbase 996 Porsche was 1.57.7 I think and the time in FIA GT3 with the 997 was a 1.54.6, so quite a big difference round the Silverstone GP track.
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997 is stiffer (does not roll as much), it's easier to catch a slide on the limit and has better overall grip then the 996. My British GT pole lap in 2004 with the Motorbase 996 Porsche was 1.57.7 I think and the time in FIA GT3 with the 997 was a 1.54.6, so quite a big difference round the Silverstone GP track.
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Sean Edwards said:
Yep, the 997 is much better to drive then a 996!
997 is stiffer (does not roll as much), it's easier to catch a slide on the limit and has better overall grip then the 996. My British GT pole lap in 2004 with the Motorbase 996 Porsche was 1.57.7 I think and the time in FIA GT3 with the 997 was a 1.54.6, so quite a big difference round the Silverstone GP track.
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I followed you for a while during the 1 hour race at Snett. I was shocked at how the composed the car was through the corners and how quick it was on exit and down the straights. Flat shifting in the 996 would claw a little back but it's a budget breaker. Did you flat shif in your 996?997 is stiffer (does not roll as much), it's easier to catch a slide on the limit and has better overall grip then the 996. My British GT pole lap in 2004 with the Motorbase 996 Porsche was 1.57.7 I think and the time in FIA GT3 with the 997 was a 1.54.6, so quite a big difference round the Silverstone GP track.
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I think that the chasis of the 997 is somewhat stiffer than the 996. Consiquently it is able to be sprung and damped stiffer without suffereing chasis flex. Certainly it deploys its power far better on exit when the torque of the engine is doing its best to turn the chasis inside out. The 996 is very figity and moves around all of the time. It does not inspire confidence in the driver as it never really feels planted. It snaps into oversteer without much warning and is very very throttle sensitive. I can see why so many drivers are demoralised by driving it. You can get in one, do a lap that you honestly believe to be on the edge of the edge, only to be told that you are 4 seconds off of the pace. The gearbox is very intimidating as the clutch is very weak. The weak spot of the 996 in fact so a driver knows he cannot take liberties with it but to be quick you need to change very very quickly. If you can't get the box right you will never be on the pace. The brakes are also very difficult to master but
a good driver can use the abs to work for him but explointing it isnt easy. get it wrong and you can loose a lot of time. A combination of a very unforgiving and fidgity chasis, difficult gearbox and tricky brakes make the 996 very hard work. Its a physical car to drive. After an hour you know you've been working. After driving Gt3's for years I thought it would an easy transition. How wrong could I be. It is a car that humble the very best of drivers... But every time I get in one It gives me the biggest buzz that any car has ever given me. It really is all things 911 and them some more. The 997 has a better chasis, fantistic sequential box that makes flat changing very easy, a stronger engine, no tricky abs to worry about and adjustible brake bias. I can't wait to race one but I'm very glad I'm cutting my teeth in a 996. Amazing experience
Steve R
a good driver can use the abs to work for him but explointing it isnt easy. get it wrong and you can loose a lot of time. A combination of a very unforgiving and fidgity chasis, difficult gearbox and tricky brakes make the 996 very hard work. Its a physical car to drive. After an hour you know you've been working. After driving Gt3's for years I thought it would an easy transition. How wrong could I be. It is a car that humble the very best of drivers... But every time I get in one It gives me the biggest buzz that any car has ever given me. It really is all things 911 and them some more. The 997 has a better chasis, fantistic sequential box that makes flat changing very easy, a stronger engine, no tricky abs to worry about and adjustible brake bias. I can't wait to race one but I'm very glad I'm cutting my teeth in a 996. Amazing experience
Steve R
Edited by Steve Rance on Thursday 31st May 18:22
Steve Rance said:
Sean Edwards said:
Yep, the 997 is much better to drive then a 996!
997 is stiffer (does not roll as much), it's easier to catch a slide on the limit and has better overall grip then the 996. My British GT pole lap in 2004 with the Motorbase 996 Porsche was 1.57.7 I think and the time in FIA GT3 with the 997 was a 1.54.6, so quite a big difference round the Silverstone GP track.
www.seanedwards.eu
I followed you for a while during the 1 hour race at Snett. I was shocked at how the composed the car was through the corners and how quick it was on exit and down the straights. Flat shifting in the 996 would claw a little back but it's a budget breaker. Did you flat shif in your 996?997 is stiffer (does not roll as much), it's easier to catch a slide on the limit and has better overall grip then the 996. My British GT pole lap in 2004 with the Motorbase 996 Porsche was 1.57.7 I think and the time in FIA GT3 with the 997 was a 1.54.6, so quite a big difference round the Silverstone GP track.
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Yeah agree with your comments above about the 996, really hard to handle and control, if you get to sideways, she bites back hard! Where as in the 997 you can drift it as much as you want and still control it, does not do the rear tyres any good though
About the brakes, that is defiantly not the case and you will see what I mean when you drive a 997. You get no feeling from the 997 brake pedal and it is so easy to lock up a wheel and it's also very difficult to know when it's locked, other then when the cockpit fills with smoke
996 abs braking is very much easier than the 997 and especially in the wet!!Edited by Sean Edwards on Friday 1st June 11:08
There is always Spa hey, never know what the weather is going to do there! Mr Lewin can use all of his 700hp there for sure...
Cya there in a few weeks...
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Cya there in a few weeks...
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