Voltage
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plewis66

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260 posts

276 months

Friday 16th May 2003
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What voltage should I get on my meter with the engine running?

I seem to be very, very close to the red, and dipping into the red whenever I put on the lights or open/close a window.

What should I do to correct it if its wrong?

GreenV8S

30,993 posts

304 months

Friday 16th May 2003
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Should be at least 12v engine off, 13.8v engine running with no heavy loads. If the voltage doesn't raise when you start the engine, this suggests the alternator isn't charging properly/at all. Do you get the no-charge warning light on when you switch the ignition on?

wedg1e

27,001 posts

285 months

Friday 16th May 2003
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The voltmeter is on the end of a long thin bit of wire and earthed via another long thin bit of wire, so the drop is more evident. Hang a multimeter on the battery and compare what it says with the dash meter; if they do agree then refer to Peter (V8S) post above!

Ian

jmorgan

36,010 posts

304 months

Friday 16th May 2003
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As said above, volt meter on the battery. My dash meter is madder than a mad thing on mad night on Wednesday's.

arcturus

1,495 posts

283 months

Saturday 17th May 2003
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Concur with all the above. Had a similar problem on my 350i this week. With engine running and no extra electrical load, my multimeter was reading 12.8 Volts - that's enough to keep the charge light off, but still too low. Oddly when I put load on (lights, fan etc) the voltage went up (yes up!!) to 13.3 volts although it quickly came down to 12 volts when I switched absolutely everything on. The solution was a new alternator. Now I get a steady 14.2 volts only dropping to 13.8 when everything is on. The new alternator also holds its voltage much better at low rpm. At tickover I still get 14.2 volts (admittedly with no extra load on), wheras the old alternator could only manage 12.5V at tickover.

The old alternator was a Lucas A133-65. The new one is a Lucas LRA407. It is Lucas' recommended replacement and is a 65 Amp unit. Top tip, don't go to Halfords!! They quoted me £127 plus my old unit for a new LRA407. I went to one of Lucas' own outlets where I paid £86 plus my old unit. They trade under the name LSUK in the phonebook.

Incidentally, my instrument panel voltmeter always reads 0.6 volts lower than a multimeter connected to the battery.

Hope this helps.

Sniffer

arcturus

1,495 posts

283 months

Saturday 17th May 2003
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Just had another thought. Is the alternator drive belt correctly tensioned? If it is loose, then the alternator will not drive properly and your voltage will be lower. Just because it isn't squealing doesn't mean it is not loose.

Sniffer

david beer

3,982 posts

287 months

Saturday 17th May 2003
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My old 390 had a few niggles on the alternator front. It had a voltage drop from the housing to engine mount, tightening didnt cure it, taking it off and scrapping to clean did. Most apparant with everything on,lights etc etc.

plewis66

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260 posts

276 months

Sunday 18th May 2003
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I believe the correct tension is 7-10mm movement on the long run of the drive belt (going from memory), and this seems to be about what I have.

I'm really concerned about going anywhere near the battery. I have this thing about 50 odd amps surging up my arms and across my chest. I don't have the first clue about electrickery, and don't own, nor do I ever want to own, a mutlimeter.

The fact that putting the headlights on when the fan is running can stall the engine perhaps implies a new alternator may be required?

david beer

3,982 posts

287 months

Sunday 18th May 2003
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Or as i said a bad connection to the alternator. Just put a screwdriver between the two, worth a try.

plewis66

Original Poster:

260 posts

276 months

Monday 19th May 2003
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Between the two what?

montegogt

421 posts

283 months

Monday 19th May 2003
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Let me get my extinguisher out before you play about with screwdrivers...

jmorgan

36,010 posts

304 months

Monday 19th May 2003
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Do you know someone with a meter who can use it?
The local garage diagnosed the alternator on the festa. I found the knackered wire that was not allowing the alternator to charge the battery and provide power to the car in general, alternator was fine. Not saying that is what is wrong but there may be a cheaper solution.... Needs checking.

david beer

3,982 posts

287 months

Monday 19th May 2003
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Sorry wasnt very clear was it. The alternator mounting bracket and the engine block. Or put a volt meter between the two points.

richard sails

813 posts

279 months

Monday 19th May 2003
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My voltmeter drops if someone else turns on their lights, as usfull as a chocolate firedoor, use a proper meter accross the battery see above posts..