How could this photo be improved/bettered?
How could this photo be improved/bettered?
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Grand Fromage

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1,518 posts

238 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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So, I didn't take this but was given it as it is my son in the pic, how could it be improved and if one was taking it again, what would one do differently? Ta,


Gemm

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246 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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According to the EXIF, it was taken with 105mm, 1/1000s, f5. Not knowing what lens you actually used, it's difficult to say. But if you'd used longer focal length (and possibly larger aperture but not sure if the lens is capable of it), then you would've got better out-of-focus background and tighter framing. I think there's too much empty space in the foreground, so longer focal length would've got rid of it too. It would've probably looked slightly better at lower angle as well but I'm not sure if it was possible.

GetCarter

31,313 posts

310 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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If you look at Dave's thread here > http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

You'll kinda' see what can be done. Having the driver/rider in a shallow depth of field always helps. With go karts I think this means lying on the floor to get the shots!

Grand Fromage

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Friday 1st June 2007
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So, if I was to take and equivalent I would use a minolta 200 lens and crouch, focus sharp on the driver and have the rest out of focus? And have better light?

trackcar

6,453 posts

257 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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tilting the camera at a rakish angle is a bit of a cliche but can make relatively mundane shots look quite impressive smile I do it a bit to make up for my lack of talent wink
I'd prefer to be in the kart than taking the pics though smile

GetCarter

31,313 posts

310 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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Grand Fromage said:
So, if I was to take and equivalent I would use a minolta 200 lens and crouch, focus sharp on the driver and have the rest out of focus? And have better light?
Yep.

If you set to speed priority and make the shutter FAST (640th or quicker) the depth of field will be very narrow (depending on light)... and if you can place yourself where the background is a way off, then you'll 'isolate' the subject, making them look very sharp. It works with all sorts.

two of mine from the past couple of weeks using said method.

http://www.stevecarter.com/picaday/may12.jpg

http://www.stevecarter.com/picaday/may25.jpg



Edited by GetCarter on Friday 1st June 14:13

Grand Fromage

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Friday 1st June 2007
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Ok, thanks guys.

matthew_h

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246 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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trackcar said:
tilting the camera at a rakish angle is a bit of a cliche but can make relatively mundane shots look quite impressive smile I do it a bit to make up for my lack of talent wink
I'd prefer to be in the kart than taking the pics though smile
Please do not do this as it looks bloody awful the vast majority of the time.

cuneus

5,963 posts

273 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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Make sure he cuts the apex next time boxedin

Grand Fromage

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Friday 1st June 2007
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cuneus said:
Make sure he cuts the apex next time boxedin
It's a late apex U-Bend mate, he's on correct line!

theRossatron

1,032 posts

263 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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As others have said I would agree on a tighter framing but couldn't find any crop that I thought was an improvement, so rotated it slightly and then cropped:


trackcar

6,453 posts

257 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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matthew_h said:
trackcar said:
tilting the camera at a rakish angle is a bit of a cliche but can make relatively mundane shots look quite impressive smile I do it a bit to make up for my lack of talent wink
I'd prefer to be in the kart than taking the pics though smile
Please do not do this as it looks bloody awful the vast majority of the time.
lol .. and to prove you wrong ..


touching cloth

11,706 posts

270 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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Well here's my (quick) effort:




Very ham fisted photoshop which could be done with a fair bit more subtlety given more time - basically what has been suggested already, a tighter crop and tried to emulate a narrower depth of field by using some blur on all bar the kart, then some blending around the edge to give an impression of movement - oh and then the usual (for me) contrast boost biggrin


MonkeyHanger

9,267 posts

273 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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trackcar said:
lol .. and to prove you wrong ..

Nope..looks bloody awful unless they're racing on a US Oval that's been built wrong smile

MonkeyHanger

9,267 posts

273 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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Grand Fromage said:
So, I didn't take this but was given it as it is my son in the pic, how could it be improved and if one was taking it again, what would one do differently? Ta,

Pick your shot better. Wait until he's clipping the kerb then either use a longer lens to isolate the subject better or crop the shot in PP a bit. Kerbs in shot = good, lots of empty tarmac= not so good smile

jeevescat

880 posts

242 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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Given a bit of background motion blur


Grand Fromage

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Friday 1st June 2007
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jeevescat said:
Given a bit of background motion blur

That I like, is there any scope to make it a little bit more subtle behind the driver?

jeevescat

880 posts

242 months

Friday 1st June 2007
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Refresh the page for a better version.

Cheers

JC

matthew_h

575 posts

246 months

Saturday 2nd June 2007
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MonkeyHanger said:
trackcar said:
lol .. and to prove you wrong ..

Nope..looks bloody awful unless they're racing on a US Oval that's been built wrong smile
Doesn't prove me wrong at all. Mr Hanger is correct, looks worse than before.

theRossatron

1,032 posts

263 months

Sunday 3rd June 2007
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MonkeyHanger said:
trackcar said:
lol .. and to prove you wrong ..

Nope..looks bloody awful unless they're racing on a US Oval that's been built wrong smile
lol great critique. It was just my 2p