Tdi anyone?
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veryoldfart

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225 months

Saturday 2nd June 2007
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has anyone any ideas if anyone has actively campaigned any Diesel engine cars? maybe it could be fun....with the right rear engined layout and NOS.....lol

now where can i get a 325 tds bmw cheap?...

Jon C

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267 months

Saturday 2nd June 2007
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veryoldfart said:
has anyone any ideas if anyone has actively campaigned any Diesel engine cars? maybe it could be fun....with the right rear engined layout and NOS.....lol

now where can i get a 325 tds bmw cheap?...
Would Nitrous help?

veryoldfart

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Saturday 2nd June 2007
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spoke to the wizard of nos, (i think they assisted the maltese truck racers who also NOS0, also diesel engines are inherently strong being built to withstand the 25:1 compression ratios needed for a compression ignition engine, weight is a problem (for me and the engine) but if you dont try, you dont know!

the standard 2.5 bmw tds engine is rated at around 140 bhp, not earth shattering but they are strong at least. (and some have aircon which on a nice day.....)


i wouldnt want to risk a front wheel drive somehow.

there are diesel engined rails in the states but are obviously "over-fuelled"...

http://www.cumminsracing.com/





Edited by veryoldfart on Saturday 2nd June 13:51

veryoldfart

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Saturday 2nd June 2007
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and JCB have gone 350 on the salt flats....

Jon C

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Saturday 2nd June 2007
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veryoldfart said:
spoke to the wizard of nos, (i think they assisted the maltese truck racers who also NOS0, also diesel engines are inherently strong being built to withstand the 25:1 compression ratios needed for a compression ignition engine, weight is a problem (for me and the engine) but if you dont try, you dont know!

the standard 2.5 bmw tds engine is rated at around 140 bhp, not earth shattering but they are strong at least. (and some have aircon which on a nice day.....)


i wouldnt want to risk a front wheel drive somehow.

there are diesel engined rails in the states but are obviously "over-fuelled"...

http://www.cumminsracing.com/





Edited by veryoldfart on Saturday 2nd June 13:51
I know modern Tdi engines are fantastically powerfull. I had chance to drive lots of different cars last year, and in terms of power, you cant tell if its a diesel or a petrol these days. The BMW tdi is staggering, and of all the cars I drove last year, up to and including s class mercs, the only one that scared me with its acceleration and torque was a diesel Focus!

veryoldfart

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Saturday 2nd June 2007
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i cant think of another RWD tdi car which may have the potential to avoid embarrasing me, the omega had the same engine but was heavier than a 3 series, same with the 525 beemer, and an early 325 shouldnt break the bank, Wizard quoted £400 to fit NOS.


liner33

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222 months

Saturday 2nd June 2007
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I was recently reading of a Skoda Fabia VRS which is the VW derived 1.9 engine as fitted to the Golf, Audi A3 , Ibiza etc etc, these produce 130hp or so stock but are easily chipped to over 200, the car in question had a different turbo , bigger intercooler and nitrous and was producing 335hp at the wheels, the engine internals were still stock!!

Being FWD no doubt its a handful !!

I have a chipped 3.2 Merc E class and thats got around 243hp and 400ft lbs of torque , i wonder if someone will put one of these engines in a dragster and add a little nitrous , could well be a cheap and competitve way of going racing.

veryoldfart

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Saturday 2nd June 2007
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always room for a new class..........lol

liner33

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222 months

Sunday 3rd June 2007
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Could a diesel engine not already run in most classes ???




john 215

58 posts

227 months

Sunday 3rd June 2007
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Hi,
How about the Pump Injector VW engines? For 1.9 engine amazaing power and torque,if you get hold of one out of a Passat/A4,6 then you get a north south set up with a trans axle set up behind it,was a VW/Audi tech for 6 years and never saw a broken gearbox on one of these.Better still how about the V6 diesel? same norh south set up.
The old BMW diesel is bullet proof for sure,i am now a BMW tech,the newer ones seam a bit more fragile,if money was no object would go for the twin turbo 3 litre six pot,badged as a 535,small turbo off the line gradually feeding in a large turbo or failing that they do a V8 diesel in left hand drive 7 series only!
Cheers John.

veryoldfart

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Sunday 3rd June 2007
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john 215 said:
Hi,
How about the Pump Injector VW engines? For 1.9 engine amazaing power and torque,if you get hold of one out of a Passat/A4,6 then you get a north south set up with a trans axle set up behind it,was a VW/Audi tech for 6 years and never saw a broken gearbox on one of these.Better still how about the V6 diesel? same norh south set up.
The old BMW diesel is bullet proof for sure,i am now a BMW tech,the newer ones seam a bit more fragile,if money was no object would go for the twin turbo 3 litre six pot,badged as a 535,small turbo off the line gradually feeding in a large turbo or failing that they do a V8 diesel in left hand drive 7 series only!
Cheers John.
steady lad, money IS an object!

i recall the old rover V8 was transformed into a deisel engine years ago, but now they have a proper-built v8 tdi i think.


veryoldfart

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Sunday 3rd June 2007
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would the new breed of hdi/common rail engines have ll sorts of ecu/mapping issues?

veryoldfart

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john 215 said:
Hi,
How about the Pump Injector VW engines? For 1.9 engine amazaing power and torque,if you get hold of one out of a Passat/A4,6 then you get a north south set up with a trans axle set up behind it,was a VW/Audi tech for 6 years and never saw a broken gearbox on one of these.Better still how about the V6 diesel? same norh south set up.
The old BMW diesel is bullet proof for sure,i am now a BMW tech,the newer ones seam a bit more fragile,if money was no object would go for the twin turbo 3 litre six pot,badged as a 535,small turbo off the line gradually feeding in a large turbo or failing that they do a V8 diesel in left hand drive 7 series only!
Cheers John.
john, if i can source a half-decent 325 tds manual and get the NOS fitted, are you going to crew? i can drive in a straight line (usually) lol do we need a laptop to tune it or a big hammer?

john 215

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227 months

Sunday 3rd June 2007
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Yeah why not!!I have a selections of hammers ready!!Very little electronics on these as early Bosch TDI.Lets raise some black smoke!!!!
The Rover V8 diesel (called the iceberg project) never amounted to much but the flat plane cranks found there way into different race cars.
Cheers John.

Dilligaf10

2,431 posts

230 months

Sunday 3rd June 2007
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I run a 3.0Tdi Audi A6 and have just run my best time of 14.2. Stock except for a superchip. Diesels respond well to nitrous and methanol injection is also the way to go. Audi do a 4.2Tdi V8 which is 340 BHP standard so could chip to 400 easily. Bigger turbo and intercoolers would get this to over 550 but the torque would be staggering, probably 750lb/ft plus. Check our Allard Motorsport for diesel technology. If there is a team being formed count me in!

veryoldfart

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Sunday 3rd June 2007
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i can drive and do the burgers

whats the turnaround on a tdi engine


seriously, what class would it run in, with RWYB being the first objective


fuel costs should be quite low...........

Edited by veryoldfart on Sunday 3rd June 13:20

MattPatch

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226 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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I Really Know Nothing About Engines Compared To You Guys, But I Drive A 1.9CDTI Vauxhall Signum (150 Break) And The Power And Torque Are Immense At Almose Any Speed Any Revs!

Patch

Dilligaf10

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230 months

Tuesday 5th June 2007
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veryoldfart said:
i can drive and do the burgers

whats the turnaround on a tdi engine


seriously, what class would it run in, with RWYB being the first objective


fuel costs should be quite low...........

Edited by veryoldfart on Sunday 3rd June 13:20
Turnround should not be a prob if rad, etc kept. Street class would be a start perhaps.

veryoldfart

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Tuesday 5th June 2007
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could end up with the most underworked crew then, sourcing parts at the track on racedays just wont happen will it!


"Hi mate, would you have a spare injector for a bmw 5 cylinder diesel?"