Knee down question
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RemaL

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25,071 posts

255 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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i am getting the confidance to move around on the bike and get my knee out.

One question. I seem to keep my feet out, and looked today before going to work and have scraped my toe slider. So for all the experanced riders out there, whats the best way get your knee down and position etc..

thanks for any comments.

WOOOOOOHOOOO I got my toe down well its a start I think

gfunk

279 posts

233 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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sounds like you dont have your feet inthe right place use the balls of you feet on the pegs for a start hang of like a monkey turn you boby a bit as if you are going round the tank and push your knee outwards and a bit foward and go round and round a roundabout a little bit faster each time more lean each time and it will touch.

Andy OH

1,959 posts

271 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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To help to get your knee down you have to have your backside hanging off the seat i.e on a right hand bend your left buut cheek will be on the seat and your right will be off the seat, and vice versa. You will also have the ball off your right foot on the foot peg as other wise if you have your toes sticking out (as you said you have) you're not positioned right on the bike & foot peg. Have a look at tsome of the racers and you will see what I'm trying to say......

Good luck & take it easy.

mc101

459 posts

253 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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RemaL said:
i am getting the confidance to move around on the bike and get my knee out.

One question. I seem to keep my feet out, and looked today before going to work and have scraped my toe slider. So for all the experanced riders out there, whats the best way get your knee down and position etc..

thanks for any comments.

WOOOOOOHOOOO I got my toe down well its a start I think
The secret is body / foot position. Always ride with your inside foot on its "ball" to keep the toes away from the ground. Drop your shoulders so your forearms are parallel to the ground. One bum cheek off the seat (is all!). Drop the inside elbow down towards the ground, lock the outside forearm against the tank and their will be slider/tarmac interface.

Dont hang off like a monkey, it isn't required.


Rawwr

22,722 posts

255 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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Chilli

17,320 posts

257 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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Rawwr said:
What a picture! And no knees touching anything.....brilliant.

hardboiledPhil

96 posts

285 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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The majority of the time you can see MotoGP/Superbike etc riders lifting their knees up!

Twit

2,908 posts

285 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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hardboiledPhil said:
The majority of the time you can see MotoGP/Superbike etc riders lifting their knees up!
Indeed, watch the TT as well, not much knee down action at all there.

Personally I think knee down antics on the road are a bit sad. I've said it before on here, but there is a 'knee down roundabout' near me. Its so funny watching the weekend boys do there stuff. Some are good but the majority get their knees down with the bike so upright!!

RemaL

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25,071 posts

255 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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Ok looks like I need to get my position right. good start

black-k1

12,627 posts

250 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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Twit said:
hardboiledPhil said:
The majority of the time you can see MotoGP/Superbike etc riders lifting their knees up!
Indeed, watch the TT as well, not much knee down action at all there.

Personally I think knee down antics on the road are a bit sad. I've said it before on here, but there is a 'knee down roundabout' near me. Its so funny watching the weekend boys do there stuff. Some are good but the majority get their knees down with the bike so upright!!
A friend of mine has Phil McCallens knee sliders from either the Formula 1 or Senior win at the 1997 TT. The sliders are barely grazed.

podman

9,004 posts

261 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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Ah but the TT isnt a short circuit race and time isnt made in the slower/meduim stuff, its in the balls out fast sections and sweepers.

For or against, one thing is for certain, it is a lot of fun, safer and less expensive than dragging boots and chassis parts of the bike on the deck..

black-k1

12,627 posts

250 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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podman said:
Ah but the TT isnt a short circuit race and time isnt made in the slower/meduim stuff, its in the balls out fast sections and sweepers.
Hmmmm! scratchchin I would guess that time is made or lost in all sections of the TT circuit as it is very often not the bike with the highest top speed that wins.
podman said:
For or against, one thing is for certain, it is a lot of fun, safer and less expensive than dragging boots and chassis parts of the bike on the deck..
I view it that if Phil McCallen can win the TT, which is run on real public roads, with little requirement to put his knee on the floor then there is no requirement for mere mortals like me to have a knee on the floor anywhere on a public road.

Andy OH

1,959 posts

271 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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black-k1 said:
I view it that if Phil McCallen can win the TT, which is run on real public roads, with little requirement to put his knee on the floor then there is no requirement for mere mortals like me to have a knee on the floor anywhere on a public road.
I agree with you there BK1, I do ride quick on the road but do not got out with the intention of getting my knee down, I reserve those antics for the track, especially the triple apex left handed in field corner at Rockingham, there's nothing like 15,000 rpm in fourth gear (on my old ex race R6) with your left knee on the deck & the rear spinning up leaving big long darkies on the track wink

Edited by Andy OH on Monday 4th June 14:28

Rawwr

22,722 posts

255 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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I'm considerably quicker when I'm not trying to get my knee down.

Mad Dave

7,158 posts

284 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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Rawwr said:
I'm considerably quicker when I'm not trying to get my knee down.
Ditto. I often lean more too.

e.g.

Trying to go fast:


Trying to show off:


Just check out the difference in the angle of the bike!

Dave

PS The angle on both is a bit girly, but in my defence, I was on a bike that handled like a pissed wheelie bin.

rumpelstiltskin

2,805 posts

280 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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I've got a black version of this wheelie bin,and mines is absolutely sozzled!Lucky yours is just pissed.

shot2bits

1,273 posts

249 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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Your foot is in the wrong position - I know because my boots are a little worn from when I first started riding! Never even bother putting my knee out on the road but do follow the other rules such as bum off the seat, shoulder down, head away from the screen etc. You get your knee down to judge the angle of lean. I might get my knee down on the public road if I lived somewhere else other than norfolk where you cannot take decent lines on most roads because you don't / can't see round corners because the bloody county is so damn flat!

I have a mate who always sticks his knee out on the corners and to be honest I'm quicker upright looking at the view!

I do however drag my knee on nearly all of the corners at Snetterton.


macdeb

8,715 posts

276 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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Getting yer knee down on the road is good for one thing only, just to freshen up the marks on your slider to save the embarrasment of sitting at a meet with fresh sliders. [nothing wrong in that] Other than that, I think it hinders your progress on the road and concentration should be on staying on rather than hanging off.
Phuck, that's a cool photo of Stoner/Rossi.

Edited by macdeb on Monday 4th June 18:45

Yoda954

2,260 posts

269 months

Monday 4th June 2007
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macdeb said:
Phuck, that's a cool photo of Stoner/Rossi.
Paintshop job biggrin