3G laptop data cards (and connection speeds)
3G laptop data cards (and connection speeds)
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UKbob

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16,277 posts

296 months

Tuesday 5th June 2007
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Im not alltogether familiar with the current offerings when it comes to mobile connections. What cards can one buy which give a laptop a mobile connection, what speeds can be achieved, does anyone offer unlimited data transfer, and who offers the best packages.

I remember looking into some kind of mobile modem card years ago, and being shocked at the ludicrously high costs of using the device. Hence, I never bought one.

ThePassenger

6,962 posts

266 months

Tuesday 5th June 2007
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3G cards will push data at AFIK a maximum of around 30KB/s. So they're not exactly slow but not quite "mobile broadband".

I think T-mobile do a data card and all you can eat (with in reason) for something like £20 a month.

_Deano

7,414 posts

284 months

Tuesday 5th June 2007
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get yourself down to a T-Mobile store. Take out their Web 'n' walk package for 29.99 per month +VAT and if you take out an 18 month contract you can get the PCMCIA datacard for free. Up to 3GB per month in data transfer. I think that if you pay an extra tenner a month you can get up to 10GB of data transfer per month. Just make sure that if you buy insurance that they cover you for every thing and not like what i did and bought from a FONE company that is based in a HOUSE that are trying to wriggle out of not providing me with a new card.
ACtully i think that you now get a USB device that can tranfer data of up to 3.6mbps, rather than the quote 1.8mbps on the PCMCIA card. The most that i got out of the PCMCIA card was around 1.2mbps and that was in the City. But the coverage was good, i was even able to obtain around 900kbps in the suburbs of Kent.

Mr E

23,104 posts

290 months

Tuesday 5th June 2007
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Most new cards are now R5 (HSDPA) compatible. What this means is;

For downlink (internet to you)

IF the 3G network can support HSDPA and
IF you're in an area of decent signal and
IF the cell isn't having the hell kicked out of it by other users
then you should see up to a theoretical max of 1.8Mbits at the radio.

With TCP overheads and the like, your application layer is unlikely to get much past 1.2Mbits/sec.

3.6Mbits/sec is on the way, again it will require a software update on the network side, and probably a software/firmware update on the data card also.

If there's no hsdpa available, you're stuck at R99, which should be 384Kbits/sec on the radio (so ~320 at the application).

If there's no 3G, you're on GPRS/EDGE, and it'll be pretty horrible.


For the uplink (you to the internet), HSUPA isn't yet available (although I'm seeing cards start to appear), so uplink is R99 on 3G, and limited to 384Kbits/sec maximum (so again, ~320 at the application layer).


Hope that helps.

ThePassenger

6,962 posts

266 months

Tuesday 5th June 2007
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Mr E said:
If there's no 3G, you're on GPRS/EDGE, and it'll be pretty horrible.
If I remember right, that'll be a 14k4 connection, so very slow.

UKbob

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16,277 posts

296 months

Tuesday 5th June 2007
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Cheers guys. Speeds are faster than I remember, and beat the hell out of my "quid a meg" (or whatever, roughly speaking!!) mobile PDA phone data rates with orange... which I never use for obvious reasons.

Podie

46,649 posts

306 months

Tuesday 5th June 2007
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Having tested them, there is no performance difference between the USB "mouse" and the PC Card variant.

Vodafone's offering seems to produce reasonable speeds (helped by the optional £17 aerial I've found), but T-Mobile seem to give quicker speeds.

Might be worth mailing GregE240 - think he was using the T-Mobile offering and getting decent speeds.

In the areas I've used 3G, the speeds have been on a par with 1-2MB broadband.

rpguk

4,520 posts

315 months

Tuesday 5th June 2007
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Have one with T-Mobile, costs about £45/month (we use it for VOIP and they wouldn't let us on the standard package)

Speed can be great but isn't all that consistant and our card isn't too reliable either.

So those areials are good then Podie? What kind of improvements did you see?


SneakyNeil

9,296 posts

268 months

Tuesday 5th June 2007
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My & others experience of 3G data cards is that upload is generally still generally very slow, like old school modem slow. This needs to be considered if you're going to be sending large emails, uploading/saving documents, etc. People aren't used to taking half an hour to send a 5 meg email these days!

Podie

46,649 posts

306 months

Tuesday 5th June 2007
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rpguk said:
So those areials are good then Podie? What kind of improvements did you see?
With the Vodafone card I've normally seen a 1 bar reception increase at 3/4 (our of 5) bars... or 2 bars in when at 1 or 2 bars.

Hope that makes sense silly

Plotloss

67,280 posts

301 months

Tuesday 5th June 2007
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The Modaco shop is doing good deals on the TMobile USB modem, half price line rental for a period.

TMobile and Vodafone devices are identical other than branding.

mcflurry

9,192 posts

284 months

Tuesday 5th June 2007
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I found the T mobile 3G card fine for general smurfing, but sometimes takes a while to start the pages downloading (latency)

steil

1,117 posts

270 months

Tuesday 5th June 2007
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I've a t-mobile PC-card - was £20 all you can eat (not sure they do this deal anymore) - it runs up to 1M - mailnly for streaming data. It's a touch slow to get it booted up which is the only downside. I've also bought an external antenna which means it runs full-strength - I'd be PH'less without it!

Mr E

23,104 posts

290 months

Tuesday 5th June 2007
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ThePassenger said:
Mr E said:
If there's no 3G, you're on GPRS/EDGE, and it'll be pretty horrible.
If I remember right, that'll be a 14k4 connection, so very slow.
EDGE is a bit better than that. Can get close to R99 speeds in good signal areas with trick modulation.

You still wouldn't want to surf for porn with it though.

ThePassenger

6,962 posts

266 months

Tuesday 5th June 2007
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mcflurry said:
I found the T mobile 3G card fine for general smurfing, but sometimes takes a while to start the pages downloading (latency)
smuf smurf smurf... JUBBLIES! hehe