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Had new rear tyres fitted to the 325 Conv (03 Reg) recently.
Got GoodYear Eagle F1's rather than vastly more exspensive Michelins as even BMW said it wouldn't be a problem.
Anyway next day drove 250 miles down to Cornwall so all motorway speeds and it just didn't feel very stable, ok so maybe they need wearing in a bit?
Then when taking a sweeping bend onto A30 the DSC light goes mad and the brakes are obviously going mental ( would have come off the road without that system!) I was doing approx 60mph with plenty of other cars in tow.
Even now after 1500 miles on them on a decent flowing bend it sets the DSC off! Got no faith in them at all.
So has anyone else had this before of do I have Killer Tyres???
Greatfull for advise.
Got GoodYear Eagle F1's rather than vastly more exspensive Michelins as even BMW said it wouldn't be a problem.
Anyway next day drove 250 miles down to Cornwall so all motorway speeds and it just didn't feel very stable, ok so maybe they need wearing in a bit?
Then when taking a sweeping bend onto A30 the DSC light goes mad and the brakes are obviously going mental ( would have come off the road without that system!) I was doing approx 60mph with plenty of other cars in tow.
Even now after 1500 miles on them on a decent flowing bend it sets the DSC off! Got no faith in them at all.
So has anyone else had this before of do I have Killer Tyres???
Greatfull for advise.
Jeez that sounds a bit scary. I've never run them but they get good reviews on other sites, Skyline owners club for one.
Here's a stupid and obvious question - whoever fitted them, are they on the right wheels ie are the arrows on the sidewalls pointing in the right direction ? If not they will not repel water, they will actually try to collect it under the tyre, causing major aquaplaning.
Les
Here's a stupid and obvious question - whoever fitted them, are they on the right wheels ie are the arrows on the sidewalls pointing in the right direction ? If not they will not repel water, they will actually try to collect it under the tyre, causing major aquaplaning.
Les
Yeah I checked fitting etc and all's well. There's no vibration and the wheel nut's are correctly torqued.
I am going back to the fitters asap just been stuck at work (not a good excuse I know) hence interested in other peoples comments before I go.
That other scary moment was on the A3 Nr Guildford where the road sweeps quite tight just going with the flow of traffic (70-80) it's not good hey?
I am going back to the fitters asap just been stuck at work (not a good excuse I know) hence interested in other peoples comments before I go.
That other scary moment was on the A3 Nr Guildford where the road sweeps quite tight just going with the flow of traffic (70-80) it's not good hey?
There was a thread running on BM3W about this. Apparantly there is a batch of Goodyear F1s which are not designed for the UK market, but have been illegally imported here.
Basically the proper tyres have "Made in Germany" stamped on the side, and also have an "E" no which shows they're proper UK market tyres.
The dodgy ones are either made in Thailand or China, and have no E no. These tyres are made of a hot weather compound, and when cornering on UK roads, they squeal a lot and give very little grip, but would appear to be ok for accelerating and braking.
Basically the proper tyres have "Made in Germany" stamped on the side, and also have an "E" no which shows they're proper UK market tyres.
The dodgy ones are either made in Thailand or China, and have no E no. These tyres are made of a hot weather compound, and when cornering on UK roads, they squeal a lot and give very little grip, but would appear to be ok for accelerating and braking.
LMC said:
Jeez that sounds a bit scary. I've never run them but they get good reviews on other sites, Skyline owners club for one.
Here's a stupid and obvious question - whoever fitted them, are they on the right wheels ie are the arrows on the sidewalls pointing in the right direction ? If not they will not repel water, they will actually try to collect it under the tyre, causing major aquaplaning.
Les
And have you checked the pressures?Here's a stupid and obvious question - whoever fitted them, are they on the right wheels ie are the arrows on the sidewalls pointing in the right direction ? If not they will not repel water, they will actually try to collect it under the tyre, causing major aquaplaning.
Les
What do you have on the front ?
I remember a long thread on www.bmwland.co.uk about mixing Michelins with others on E46 sports. Might be worth a browse ?
I remember a long thread on www.bmwland.co.uk about mixing Michelins with others on E46 sports. Might be worth a browse ?
Hmmm - sounds familiar.
The B3 had some Goodyear Eagles on it when I bought it - exact same symptoms you described; general instability and hyperactive ASC at bizarre moment. Also wandered a lot under braking.
Got the correct Michelin PS2 on them pronto.
My brother (tyre shop manager) investigated the goodyears we took off - they were fine, plenty of tread, sidewalls healthy etc. Only thing we could find was they were Merc specific fitment.
The B3 had some Goodyear Eagles on it when I bought it - exact same symptoms you described; general instability and hyperactive ASC at bizarre moment. Also wandered a lot under braking.
Got the correct Michelin PS2 on them pronto.
My brother (tyre shop manager) investigated the goodyears we took off - they were fine, plenty of tread, sidewalls healthy etc. Only thing we could find was they were Merc specific fitment.
I can confirm much of what has been said. Proper "Made in Germany" Goodyear F1's are superb tyres - some of the best I've ever driven on. And there are definitely "bad" F1's out there.
After experiencing a good set on my 850CSi, I replaced the worn fronts with what I thought were identical F1's. They were simply appalling! No directional stability, no wet grip, no turn in and no proper feel at all. After 250 miles I took them back and got all the usual 'they have to bed in' stuff from the supplier. I know tyres have to bed in but these were lethal. I persued the issue with the supplier and eventually, under much duress, they agreed to let me try another pair. The Manager drove my car with the old tyres and agreed that something felt wrong but wasnt convinced it was the tyres.
He subsequently drove it with the replacements and the car was literally transformed back to its old self. The difference was so vast that simply had to agree that it was bad tyres.
His explanation was that "it was a bad batch" but added "we dont use that wholesaler any more"!
Good F1's really are superb. I've certainly never found anything better for my 850's and Ive tried a few!
After experiencing a good set on my 850CSi, I replaced the worn fronts with what I thought were identical F1's. They were simply appalling! No directional stability, no wet grip, no turn in and no proper feel at all. After 250 miles I took them back and got all the usual 'they have to bed in' stuff from the supplier. I know tyres have to bed in but these were lethal. I persued the issue with the supplier and eventually, under much duress, they agreed to let me try another pair. The Manager drove my car with the old tyres and agreed that something felt wrong but wasnt convinced it was the tyres.
He subsequently drove it with the replacements and the car was literally transformed back to its old self. The difference was so vast that simply had to agree that it was bad tyres.
His explanation was that "it was a bad batch" but added "we dont use that wholesaler any more"!
Good F1's really are superb. I've certainly never found anything better for my 850's and Ive tried a few!
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