Cerbera Handling
Cerbera Handling
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Green Meanie

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484 posts

248 months

Saturday 9th June 2007
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My friend as just purchased a 4.2 V8 Cerbera,P reg after expressing an interest in TVRs to me wrong thing to do as I am a Griff owner and a TVR fan through an through.My friend is an Ex biker and as such drives the Cerb hard (as it should be).He has told me that on shutting off the Throtle at 135 mph the Cerbera was all over the road,a frightening situation which he said was like driving with two flat front tyres.After consultation with the dealer from which he bought the car he was told THEY ALL DO THAT,not knowing anything about Cerbs myself I thought that this cannot possibly be correct.
Does anybody have any experience of this as a normal driving condition,just need some information to go back to the Dealers with and get the problem sorted.Could it just be worn dampers or something,although the Dealer says the dampers are good and its just been serviced and MOTed

Thanks

Dave 500

7,882 posts

272 months

Saturday 9th June 2007
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Can't say i've noticed anything like that. confused

marcus1970

1,217 posts

265 months

Saturday 9th June 2007
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Green Meanie said:
My friend as just purchased a 4.2 V8 Cerbera,P reg after expressing an interest in TVRs to me wrong thing to do as I am a Griff owner and a TVR fan through an through.My friend is an Ex biker and as such drives the Cerb hard (as it should be).He has told me that on shutting off the Throtle at 135 mph the Cerbera was all over the road,a frightening situation which he said was like driving with two flat front tyres.After consultation with the dealer from which he bought the car he was told THEY ALL DO THAT,not knowing anything about Cerbs myself I thought that this cannot possibly be correct.
Does anybody have any experience of this as a normal driving condition,just need some information to go back to the Dealers with and get the problem sorted.Could it just be worn dampers or something,although the Dealer says the dampers are good and its just been serviced and MOTed

Thanks
Shouldn't be like that, the only reason I ever come off the throttle when going for a blat (on private roads of course) is when other cars are in the vicinity. Otherwise it just keeps on going straight and true.

Probably a mix of the following.

Tracking, geometry, wheel size, tyre size, suspension set up, steering components etc.

They need to take it out for him and get it sorted.

Someone else may be able to be more specific.

MB

Erich Stahler

2,878 posts

300 months

Saturday 9th June 2007
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I would suggest at 135mph he shouldn't be 'shutting off the throttle' should be more like easing off the power in a controlled fashion? the faster you are travelling surely the more gentle you should be with all inputs as to not de stabilise the car in any way, and the Cerbera is a very light car with a light flywheel which goes some way towards giving it its quite aggressive throttle response which is quite uncharacteristic for a V8 engine.

350Matt

3,902 posts

309 months

Saturday 9th June 2007
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Definitely check the tyre pressures and get the thing 4 wheel aligned ( by someone who knows what they're doing)

If there still are problems after that its time to replace shocks / springs etc

A well set-up Cerb is very stable up to silly speeds

Matt

hugepiece

724 posts

257 months

Saturday 9th June 2007
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if geo doesnt sort it, could be dodge from shocks. Mine did something similar when even over the slightest bumps and when braking. Once I looked closer one of the shock seals had failed and the oil was leaking out. One set of new shocks/springs later car is transformed!

brummiewedge

5,284 posts

251 months

Saturday 9th June 2007
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Could be worn suspension bushes as when he comes of the gas the forces are reversed, then all of a sudden the geometry is reversed also causing it to weave all over the place. Mine does not do this, but i have new bushes throughout.

Byker28i

91,807 posts

247 months

Saturday 9th June 2007
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Is this the infamous torque/engine braking oversteer? Not noticed it myself but is he slowing down with high revs and engine braking?

Ireland

3,517 posts

244 months

Saturday 9th June 2007
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I've had loads of suggestions given to me on the topic of front-end handling on this thread http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t...

Perhaps something here might help you.

Also, double check the tyres are in the correct locations (mine had been fitted "fronts on back" and it does upset the handling of the car.

Mad Mark

2,345 posts

262 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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I cant add anything that hasn't been said above, but can agree that it shouldn't do that. Mine doesn't and I've not heard it on here before.
Maybe go back to the dealer and say i've just consulted 100+ Cerbera owners who say "it shouldn't do that" see what they say then!! laugh

Kerberos

160 posts

232 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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Hi, I'm the friend with the twitchy cerb. I've just been out for the afternoon on a mixture of roads and have come back with a massive grin and a bit more than the car twitching. The floating feeling happens at speeds less than 70mph if you knock the throttle off, for example if you are overtaking and then need to nip back into a gap. It also seems to 'float' a bit as you accelerate at the beginning of the manouvre. I'll get the geometry checked first by another garage and then I have a second opinion before I begin spending on new springs/dampers as recommended by the dealer.

Edited by Kerberos on Sunday 10th June 20:08

Cooky

4,955 posts

267 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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check to see if the lower front splitter is fitted AND the correct way around.

Byker28i

91,807 posts

247 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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Cooky said:
check to see if the lower front splitter is fitted AND the correct way around.
That wouldn't affect handling at low speeds such as 70.

What size wheels/tyres do you have fitted and what tyre pressure?

Cooky

4,955 posts

267 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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Byker28i said:
Cooky said:
check to see if the lower front splitter is fitted AND the correct way around.
That wouldn't affect handling at low speeds such as 70.

What size wheels/tyres do you have fitted and what tyre pressure?
O.P. stated comming of the throttle at 135 , I know that i'd want my splitter there.....besides why come off at 135 unless yer looking for the brakes scratchchin mine goes up a lot more than that and its a baby 4.2 wink

Byker28i

91,807 posts

247 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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Cooky said:
Byker28i said:
Cooky said:
check to see if the lower front splitter is fitted AND the correct way around.
That wouldn't affect handling at low speeds such as 70.

What size wheels/tyres do you have fitted and what tyre pressure?
O.P. stated comming of the throttle at 135 , I know that i'd want my splitter there.....besides why come off at 135 unless yer looking for the brakes scratchchin mine goes up a lot more than that and its a baby 4.2 wink
Yup - but then he mentioned:

The floating feeling happens at speeds less than 70mph if you knock the throttle off, for example if you are overtaking and then need to nip back into a gap.

I don't think the splitter will be doing that much at that speed. It'll be more physical like mismatched tyres, tyre pressures, knacked suspension/bushes IMHO of course smile

dannylt

1,906 posts

314 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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Years since I sold my Cerbera, but I often lost the splitter. It made no appreciable difference to handling - I think it's primary purpose was to encourage air flow through the rad. However, it should most certainly not handle like that - take it to a proper car setup place!

jayzee

2,752 posts

234 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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Splitter, what splitter? Anyone got a piccy of said item on the car?

oli_quick

380 posts

259 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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I do notice the drop in revs is quick compared to other cars (I assume this is because it has a light fly-wheel or something)...so maybe this decleration in conjunction with dodgy tracking...tyres etc may cause it to swerve.

Edited by oli_quick on Monday 11th June 13:51

Byker28i

91,807 posts

247 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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jayzee said:
Splitter, what splitter? Anyone got a piccy of said item on the car?
From a previous thread