MotoGP - Spanish GP - What a race!!
MotoGP - Spanish GP - What a race!!
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Woody

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2,189 posts

313 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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Guy's,

Just watched the MotoGP from Spain, WHAT A RACE!!!!!

The last few laps were absolutely brilliant bounce !

Good to see some close racing and good overtaking, loads of respect for those guys. bow

Chris

_ian_

1,940 posts

275 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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Was absolutely brilliant. Shaping up to be a cracking season.

Don't think Pedrosa is a match for either Rossi or Stoner, just seems too easy to bully him plus he can never outbrake them. He just seems to be lacking that edge for me.
Not sure whats going on with Hayden either. 36 seconds down on his teammate on the same bike, he's nowhere this season

freedman

6,015 posts

236 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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Great race but the Yamaha is down on top speed top both the Ducatii and Honda, only Rossi brilliance has that bike at the front.

Stoner taking the pressure well though, a vast improvement on his crash ridden season last year.

Hayden, just not that good IMO, had his season last year with easily the best bike and Rossi having a string of failures, dont expect him to challenge for the title again

gwood

203 posts

242 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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was a fantastic race but then isnt every race??? loads of overtaking and drama wish f1 was the same.. as for nicky hayden he shouldnt of been the champ last season, he only won twice and i cant think of anything else he did!!

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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gwood said:
was a fantastic race but then isnt every race??? loads of overtaking and drama wish f1 was the same.. as for nicky hayden he shouldnt of been the champ last season, he only won twice and i cant think of anything else he did!!
To be fair to Nicky, he has come from SBK racing and his style suited the 990's. He has no experience on 250 machines, which seems to be a requirement to do well on the 800's. Given time, I think we'll see Nicky adapt to the new bikes, although i don't ever see him as a title threat again, i think he might win a few races & certainly worthy of a place in Moto GP.

F.M

5,816 posts

249 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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A Great race...a proper tussle over the last few laps....hat`s off too Stoner, He sustained the pressure & responded with some lovely controlled aggressive riding of his own.......Yamaha & michelin have been busy to catch the Ducati package it seems. Just confirms the no 1 motorsport spot that moto gp has...is there better racing on the box...?

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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On average World Superbike provides better racing IMO, Until today MGP has been a bit quiet this season. smile

big dub

4,093 posts

246 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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woohoo Awesome race thumbup


shout COME ON VALE!!!!

Killer2005

20,581 posts

257 months

Sunday 10th June 2007
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Cracking race

jbudgie

10,030 posts

241 months

Monday 11th June 2007
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Vale for champ.

jellison

12,803 posts

306 months

Tuesday 12th June 2007
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More of the same and Vale to just pip Casey would be justice.



Edited by jellison on Tuesday 12th June 09:09

TimmyArt

1,425 posts

247 months

Tuesday 12th June 2007
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yep, its was brilliant - amazing how fast the Ducati is in a straight line. Incredible opposite lock drifting and sooo close to each otherbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin

jellison

12,803 posts

306 months

Tuesday 12th June 2007
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TimmyArt said:
yep, its was brilliant - amazing how fast the Ducati is in a straight line. Incredible opposite lock drifting and sooo close to each otherbiggrinbiggrinbiggrin
Caseys bike was some time pipped by Vale's Yam on the main straight but when it needed to be blitz'd it on the straight!

Furyous

25,676 posts

250 months

Tuesday 12th June 2007
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Ok, first off, Im a huge fan of Motogp and have been for many mnay years.

Im going to play devils advocate here and ask the question......


Would Stoner be on top of the pile IF the Duke didnt have its speed advantage ?

I agree he has come of age since being in the Duke team, but cant help but think the speed advantage is whats beating Vale.
Witness Vale outbraking him at the end of the straights, and turning insode him on a variety of occasions.

Anyways, enough of Stoner/Vale, how about Hopper ? seems to be really staring to come together in the Suzy pits now.

Pvapour

8,981 posts

282 months

Tuesday 12th June 2007
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Furyous said:
Would Stoner be on top of the pile IF the Duke didnt have its speed advantage ?
Probably not, but then the Yam has advantages elsewhere, better traction, better acceleration (but not top speed) and braking (from tripple braced forks?) the thing is you can do very little defensively to a higher top speed, where as Vales advatages can be blocked wink

Furyous said:
I agree he has come of age since being in the Duke team, but cant help but think the speed advantage is whats beating Vale.
Witness Vale outbraking him at the end of the straights, and turning insode him on a variety of occasions.

How many times did Vale cock up once passed though, running wide and letting Stoner back through? Stoner did not falter at any point and looked way more composed & proffesional the Vale, dont get me wrong I am a Vale fan through and through, but i think Stoner is going to take him yesfrown just as long as his team / bike do not let him down wink

jellison

12,803 posts

306 months

Tuesday 12th June 2007
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Get Hopper on the other YAM. Vermuleun is always way behind Hopper, and Hopper is always the fastest and higher finishing Suzi (the last wet race being a rare exception). Like Mick Doohan said Chris is fast but not aggressive enough in the dry. Hooper is Brilliant and on a Yam would be there at the end with the lead 2 or 3 exactly what Vermelen / Edwards aren't!

A case in point. I really want to see Suzuki do well and win in the dry but Hopper on a Yam would be better for him. Get Melandri on the Suzi (works team which is what he deserves and Hayden on the other one).

freedman

6,015 posts

236 months

Tuesday 12th June 2007
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[quote=Pvapour][quote=Furyous]

Probably not, but then the Yam has advantages elsewhere, better traction, better acceleration (but not top speed) and braking (from tripple braced forks?) the thing is you can do very little defensively to a higher top speed, where as Vales advatages can be blocked wink

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The main Yamha advantage is Rossi, no one else would have that bike where it is with the regularity he does

Furyous

25,676 posts

250 months

Tuesday 12th June 2007
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Pvapour said:
How many times did Vale cock up once passed though, running wide and letting Stoner back through? Stoner did not falter at any point and looked way more composed & proffesional the Vale, dont get me wrong I am a Vale fan through and through, but i think Stoner is going to take him yesfrown just as long as his team / bike do not let him down wink
Surely because Vale is having to ride at 12/10ths and Stoner has the advantage of not having too ?

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 12th June 2007
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Furyous said:
Surely because Vale is having to ride at 12/10ths and Stoner has the advantage of not having too ?
That's the way i see it, Rossi's mistakes are due to him having to push the limits of a bike, that's uncompetative in the hands of other riders.

jellison

12,803 posts

306 months

Tuesday 12th June 2007
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I'd like to see Vale on the Kwak - that looks like awinner in his hand - just better than the rest (most of the time)!