Applicant with criminal record
Discussion
Just had someone apply for a job.
He initially avoided it, but I found he had been to prison.
He is still a little vague about when released but what has really got me thinking is why he went.
He told me he was done for driving whilst disqualified and spent 12mths inside.
Never realised you could get sent down for this, especially for that long.
Anyone heard of anything similar?
Or is he hiding something else?
He initially avoided it, but I found he had been to prison.
He is still a little vague about when released but what has really got me thinking is why he went.
He told me he was done for driving whilst disqualified and spent 12mths inside.
Never realised you could get sent down for this, especially for that long.
Anyone heard of anything similar?
Or is he hiding something else?
Has a rat been smelt!?
It really depends what the situation is. People are under no obligation to tell you about a criminal record, however they cannot lie in any way about not having one.
Would you have given him the job without the record?
It does sound very harsh to get 12 months for driving whilst disqualified, but technically possible I suppose, I would recommend a posting on this point on SP&L as there are plenty friendly bobbies there!
The other possibility is that he was done for some kind of theft and is understandably not really wanting to disclose this up front! Indeed, if someone has the propensity for theft or other dishonesty, then slightly changing what he was done for as an act of dishonesty is probably a drop in the ocean in comparison.
If you are serious about employing him I would ask his written permission to get a CRB check so that this kind of offence would show. He many not know that it is slightly more complex than that, but it would give him the final chance to come clean and have his application assessed in the same way as the rest.
It really depends what the situation is. People are under no obligation to tell you about a criminal record, however they cannot lie in any way about not having one.
Would you have given him the job without the record?
It does sound very harsh to get 12 months for driving whilst disqualified, but technically possible I suppose, I would recommend a posting on this point on SP&L as there are plenty friendly bobbies there!
The other possibility is that he was done for some kind of theft and is understandably not really wanting to disclose this up front! Indeed, if someone has the propensity for theft or other dishonesty, then slightly changing what he was done for as an act of dishonesty is probably a drop in the ocean in comparison.
If you are serious about employing him I would ask his written permission to get a CRB check so that this kind of offence would show. He many not know that it is slightly more complex than that, but it would give him the final chance to come clean and have his application assessed in the same way as the rest.
I have to say the fact that although asked if he has a record, he would tell us he had 3 points on his licence, but not disclose any real criminal record tells me not to employ him.
The fault here is not the record, but the dishonesty.
I still feel he is holding something back. The crime / time does not seem to go hand in hand.
The fault here is not the record, but the dishonesty.
I still feel he is holding something back. The crime / time does not seem to go hand in hand.
Black5 said:
I have to say the fact that although asked if he has a record, he would tell us he had 3 points on his licence, but not disclose any real criminal record tells me not to employ him.
The fault here is not the record, but the dishonesty.
I still feel he is holding something back. The crime / time does not seem to go hand in hand.
Exactly.The fault here is not the record, but the dishonesty.
I still feel he is holding something back. The crime / time does not seem to go hand in hand.
That is the factor I was getting at. If he is lying at this stage, then now is the time to discount him instead of having a tricky situation getting rid later!
By the way, what you have explained is a classic 'advanced' liars trick.
Instead of the bare faced complete denial, admitting to something smaller 'sounds' as if they are trying to be honest.
Mattt said:
What does the rehabilitation of offenders act have to say on this?
Basics hereBottom line is that for most jobs you don't have to declare 'unspent' convictions unless you are specifically asked on an application form or at interview whether you have a criminal record.
Once the conviction is 'spent', you don't have to declare it even if you are asked.
There are a number of agencies offering Criminal Record Bureau checks and he is entitled to a copy of his record under the DPA.
http://www.candidatevetting.co.uk/PreEmploymentFac...
Ask him to produce a certified copy of his CRB/DPA record outlining his convictions. Soon see the truth. I recall the CRB stuff is mainly around suitability to work with children and vulnerable adults.
He may have convictions for dishonesty, indecency, drugs or violence which might make him unsuitable to do the kind of work you have in mind for him.
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