Chocky and fidgit's argy bargy thread :D
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Taken here to not ruin the FAQ thread:
I was the inside of 3 cars, you were the outside, there was a car in the middle of us, you were slightly in front of me and the other car, the next thing I see is you spearing across the track in front of me leaving me nowhere to go. Next corner I'm on my line and you punt me into the barrier ending my race.
Now understand why after the previous race with you ramming me and putting me out of the race I got upset that yet again another 10 minute race is finished on lap one. That's why I got pissed off, rubbing happens, we had a good 15 races later on in the evening without only one bit of arsing about (and it wasn't me either
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I prefer clean racing, I'm all up for having a mess about from time to time but clean racing is what I'm after.
Fidgits said:
I was driving a clean race, you put me off circuit, so I didnt try as hard not to hit you...
ah, you've edited, well if you want me to remove the above, let me know...
All i'll say from before is, you rammed me through the corner and then got upset when i returned the favor - i ran 5 perfectly clean races before you showed up, so stop trying to appear blameless here, yes i shouldnt have hit you, but i figure if someone rams me to get passed, why should i do my damnest to get passed them cleanly?
truce?
Mate,ah, you've edited, well if you want me to remove the above, let me know...
All i'll say from before is, you rammed me through the corner and then got upset when i returned the favor - i ran 5 perfectly clean races before you showed up, so stop trying to appear blameless here, yes i shouldnt have hit you, but i figure if someone rams me to get passed, why should i do my damnest to get passed them cleanly?
truce?
Edited by Fidgits on Thursday 14th June 10:06
I was the inside of 3 cars, you were the outside, there was a car in the middle of us, you were slightly in front of me and the other car, the next thing I see is you spearing across the track in front of me leaving me nowhere to go. Next corner I'm on my line and you punt me into the barrier ending my race.
Now understand why after the previous race with you ramming me and putting me out of the race I got upset that yet again another 10 minute race is finished on lap one. That's why I got pissed off, rubbing happens, we had a good 15 races later on in the evening without only one bit of arsing about (and it wasn't me either
)I prefer clean racing, I'm all up for having a mess about from time to time but clean racing is what I'm after.
Good idea chucks - though i did send you an email so we could do this in private... anyway.. .from the last thread:
I'm all for clean racing, as i said, we did 5 last night that were great fun - but if you ram someone off the track you cant then complain if someone does it to you...
rubbing does happen, but there is far too many dives up the inside that are only going to end one way, the key to clean racing is giving each other room and no silly overtake attempts at the first corner...
fidgits said:
Second edit: you didnt 'touch' my car, you rammed it off the road in the first corner - I did nothing worse to you in the next one, you were just unlucky and took engine damage - and i apologised for that. At the end of the day - i can run a clean race (we had 5 before you showed up) can you? I play for fun, thats all, if you want clean, great, i'm all for it (just ask dave) but you have to start by being clean.
and yes, perhaps the tat for tat is stupid, but it was a joke - and its funny how it was okay for you to do it for the rest of the night even though it wasnt okay for me to do it
You saw that corner a different way to me, i was side by side with someone, got them on the inside with no contact and from no-where you hit my rear sending the back around - me hitting the barrier and luckily not losing too much momentum, but taking big damage, the next corner i did hit you, i admit it, i even admit there was probably a touch of revenge malice there, and i apologised for that - ironically though, you say thats not on, but what did you do for the rest of the races? oh yes - try and take me off and yes, perhaps the tat for tat is stupid, but it was a joke - and its funny how it was okay for you to do it for the rest of the night even though it wasnt okay for me to do it
I'm all for clean racing, as i said, we did 5 last night that were great fun - but if you ram someone off the track you cant then complain if someone does it to you...
rubbing does happen, but there is far too many dives up the inside that are only going to end one way, the key to clean racing is giving each other room and no silly overtake attempts at the first corner...
Edited by Fidgits on Thursday 14th June 10:21
The way I remember it is that there were 4 of us heading into the first hairpin at tsukuba - logic says that there isnt enough room. Problem is that we all try to get round smoothly but a slight tap is enough to spin someone out - intential or not. I think I got hit in the midst of the first corner and sometimes its unavoidable.
I accidentally knocked Fidgits in a previous race. We were alongside eachother and there was a gentle "rub" but because he was slightly ahead it turned into the perfect nerf and around he went. It was not intentional and an apology would have been issued if he was on headset at the time. Next race at the Ring and I was well and truely put into the barrier as revenge. Fair enough - it didnt bother me.
There will always be an issue with intential or un-intentional contact.
The next race at New York, I broke way too early (still getting used to slower cars) and as a results got a tap from chocky. Fair dues he apologised as it wasnt intentional..
Just my 2p worth....
Richi78
I accidentally knocked Fidgits in a previous race. We were alongside eachother and there was a gentle "rub" but because he was slightly ahead it turned into the perfect nerf and around he went. It was not intentional and an apology would have been issued if he was on headset at the time. Next race at the Ring and I was well and truely put into the barrier as revenge. Fair enough - it didnt bother me.
There will always be an issue with intential or un-intentional contact.
The next race at New York, I broke way too early (still getting used to slower cars) and as a results got a tap from chocky. Fair dues he apologised as it wasnt intentional..
Just my 2p worth....
Richi78
skibum said:
The way I remember it is that there were 4 of us heading into the first hairpin at tsukuba - logic says that there isnt enough room. Problem is that we all try to get round smoothly but a slight tap is enough to spin someone out - intential or not. I think I got hit in the midst of the first corner and sometimes its unavoidable.
I accidentally knocked Fidgits in a previous race. We were alongside eachother and there was a gentle "rub" but because he was slightly ahead it turned into the perfect nerf and around he went. It was not intentional and an apology would have been issued if he was on headset at the time. Next race at the Ring and I was well and truely put into the barrier as revenge. Fair enough - it didnt bother me.
There will always be an issue with intential or un-intentional contact.
The next race at New York, I broke way too early (still getting used to slower cars) and as a results got a tap from chocky. Fair dues he apologised as it wasnt intentional..
Just my 2p worth....
Richi78
I did explain that one though - and IIRC i did give you warning (enough to say, please dont mate)... the first race did appear like a perfect PIT manovere on me... and when you explained, i did apologise, and that was the only time i hit you I accidentally knocked Fidgits in a previous race. We were alongside eachother and there was a gentle "rub" but because he was slightly ahead it turned into the perfect nerf and around he went. It was not intentional and an apology would have been issued if he was on headset at the time. Next race at the Ring and I was well and truely put into the barrier as revenge. Fair enough - it didnt bother me.
There will always be an issue with intential or un-intentional contact.
The next race at New York, I broke way too early (still getting used to slower cars) and as a results got a tap from chocky. Fair dues he apologised as it wasnt intentional..
Just my 2p worth....
Richi78
and also, IIRC i came off worse in that one too
Robatr0n said:
I am sitting here laughing away to myself at how this has developed but if I am completely honest I would be looking for a revenge 'tap' on someone if I got wiped out.
All that aside, I am really looking forward to some nice clean racing when I do eventually get to race you all.
we had a very good clean session last night for over a hour All that aside, I am really looking forward to some nice clean racing when I do eventually get to race you all.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...add me if you like
Gt y2blade
Edited by y2blade on Thursday 14th June 10:35
y2blade said:
Robatr0n said:
I am sitting here laughing away to myself at how this has developed but if I am completely honest I would be looking for a revenge 'tap' on someone if I got wiped out.
All that aside, I am really looking forward to some nice clean racing when I do eventually get to race you all.
we had a very good clean session last night for over a hour All that aside, I am really looking forward to some nice clean racing when I do eventually get to race you all.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...add me if you like
Gt y2blade
Well...when I get home from work!
y2blade said:
Robatr0n said:
I am sitting here laughing away to myself at how this has developed but if I am completely honest I would be looking for a revenge 'tap' on someone if I got wiped out.
All that aside, I am really looking forward to some nice clean racing when I do eventually get to race you all.
we had a very good clean session last night for over a hour All that aside, I am really looking forward to some nice clean racing when I do eventually get to race you all.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...add me if you like
Gt y2blade
Edited by y2blade on Thursday 14th June 10:35
And we had a couple of clean races after chocky left...
one ending up 200ths of a second between Dave and I without a single 'rub' through a 5 lap race
hairydave-hd vti said:
fidgits won this one by 000s of a second...
Edited by Fidgits on Thursday 14th June 10:39
Fidgits said:
y2blade said:
Robatr0n said:
I am sitting here laughing away to myself at how this has developed but if I am completely honest I would be looking for a revenge 'tap' on someone if I got wiped out.
All that aside, I am really looking forward to some nice clean racing when I do eventually get to race you all.
we had a very good clean session last night for over a hour All that aside, I am really looking forward to some nice clean racing when I do eventually get to race you all.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...add me if you like
Gt y2blade
Edited by y2blade on Thursday 14th June 10:35
And we had a couple of clean races after chocky left...
one ending up 200ths of a second between Dave and I without a single 'rub' through a 5 lap race
hairydave-hd vti said:
fidgits won this one by 000s of a second...
Edited by Fidgits on Thursday 14th June 10:39
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