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loneranger

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876 posts

236 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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So Kubica is out and Sebastian Vettel is in. Interesting. A big pity for Kubica because he is very good and developing fast. But it will be interesting to see what Vettel can do in a competetive car.

The circuit, with that twiddly infield, is not going to suit the dancing donkey and it's long wheelbase.

You can overtake here on the wide "proper" bit of the circuit. Aero will be critical. It will be a good test of who has the best wind tunnel.

It has rained in the past here. It would be great to see what the pecking order is in a wet race these days, now MS has gone.

Rough stab at a result 1)Alonso 2)Kimi 3)LH 4)Heidfeld

Coulthard 8th
Button 9th

Gold

1,998 posts

234 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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loneranger said:
Rough stab at a result 1)Alonso 2)Kimi 3)LH 4)Heidfeld
1) Alonso 2) LH 3) Heidfield

The ferraris were off the pace again, they need to get in gear if they want to improve on canada.


Vettel looked quick in practice for his debut, another fresh entry to look at for future achievements? smile

stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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Ferrari look to be headed for an Alesi/Berger like lull.

belleair302

7,008 posts

236 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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Kimi is not physically fit enough to drive well, he is lazy. Massa is working hard but the aero setup is off at the moment and they cannot get enough traction down soon enough out of a corner. BMW have a well balanced car that works on both tyre compounds and there may be a surprise or two this weekend as well.

stockhatcher

5,164 posts

252 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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loneranger said:
So Kubica is out and Sebastian Vettel is in. Interesting. A big pity for Kubica because he is very good and developing fast. But it will be interesting to see what Vettel can do in a competetive car.

The circuit, with that twiddly infield, is not going to suit the dancing donkey and it's long wheelbase.

You can overtake here on the wide "proper" bit of the circuit. Aero will be critical. It will be a good test of who has the best wind tunnel.

It has rained in the past here. It would be great to see what the pecking order is in a wet race these days, now MS has gone.

Rough stab at a result 1)Alonso 2)Kimi 3)LH 4)Heidfeld

Coulthard 8th
Button 9th
nono

1 LH
2FA
3FM or KR


lewis is on a roll, he seems to be able to do everything else that's asked of him, and he is showing similar form to his previous campaigns in gp2 and f3, that is the first few races to win, and dominant mid season,, a slight slump followed by a return to form.

i'd put money on LH winning up until germany.

loneranger

Original Poster:

876 posts

236 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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For Canada LH had been working hard at the McLaren simulator because he had never driven it before.

For USA he has zero simulator time, he has just driven it in computer games. He had never driven there for real.

This is a strange circuit with banking, a wide and fast bit and a slow and twiddly bit. It will favour those with previous.

And it could rain.

LocoBlade

7,653 posts

285 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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I thought Lewis said he did about 5 laps in the simulator for Canada? Anyway, however realistic a simulator, I can't see it being much of a substitute for actually driving the circuit because you'd never get the same feel of the car, the only thing its going to help with is learning where the track goes and roughly what speed they are taken at.

FP2 times now up BTW, Alonso still quickest with Lewis 0.15 behind folowed by the Ferraris and Heidfeld, although Alonso was slower in FP2 than FP1, whereas Lewis improved a bit. What is a bit odd though is the Mclarens are very slow through the speed traps which would indicate they are running more wing to blitz the twisty bit, but being nearly 10kmh slower than the BMWs has to be a concern Id think.

loneranger

Original Poster:

876 posts

236 months

Friday 15th June 2007
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LocoBlade said:
I thought Lewis said he did about 5 laps in the simulator for Canada? Anyway, however realistic a simulator, I can't see it being much of a substitute for actually driving the circuit because you'd never get the same feel of the car, the only thing its going to help with is learning where the track goes and roughly what speed they are taken at.

FP2 times now up BTW, Alonso still quickest with Lewis 0.15 behind folowed by the Ferraris and Heidfeld, although Alonso was slower in FP2 than FP1, whereas Lewis improved a bit. What is a bit odd though is the Mclarens are very slow through the speed traps which would indicate they are running more wing to blitz the twisty bit, but being nearly 10kmh slower than the BMWs has to be a concern Id think.
As I said at the beginning this will be a big aero test. Maybe the donkeys will blitz where overtaking is possible on the wide fast bit and hold the others up through the twiddles.

skinny

5,269 posts

264 months

Saturday 16th June 2007
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edit: can't decide who i think will be top 3. LH hasn't driven the circuit, alonso doesn't like it, fezza's seem to be off form... will be it be BMW's turn???

Edited by skinny on Saturday 16th June 00:36

m3psm

988 posts

250 months

Saturday 16th June 2007
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1. Heidfeld
2. Kimi
3. Alonso

6. Sato smile

stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Saturday 16th June 2007
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1.Hamilton
2.Heidfeld
3.Vitel
4.Alonso
5.Kimi
6.Massa


spitfire-ian

4,210 posts

257 months

Saturday 16th June 2007
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m3psm said:
1. Heidfeld
2. Kimi
3. Alonso

6. Sato smile
Wash you mouth out for not following the media bandwagon and putting LH 1st tongue out

flemke

23,481 posts

266 months

Saturday 16th June 2007
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m3psm said:
1. Heidfeld
2. Kimi
3. Alonso

6. Sato smile
You get top marks for originality!

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Jungles

3,587 posts

250 months

Saturday 16th June 2007
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Alonso seems to be benefiting from past experience.

Vettel did really well in FP1, but slower in FP2. Same with Heidfeld. Probably running with light fuel in FP1 and heavy in FP2.

Those Toyotas are awful! Ralf is 20th!!!

Edited by Jungles on Saturday 16th June 14:48

spitfire-ian

4,210 posts

257 months

Saturday 16th June 2007
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Hamilton's faster than Alonso so far in the latest practice.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Saturday 16th June 2007
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spitfire-ian said:
Hamilton's faster than Alonso so far in the latest practice.
Same as last time then, Alonso will put a banzai in at the end to give his ego a boostsmile

spitfire-ian

4,210 posts

257 months

Saturday 16th June 2007
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After that practice:

Alonso
Vettel
Hamilton
Kovalainen

stephen300o

15,464 posts

257 months

Saturday 16th June 2007
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Told you sowink

stockhatcher

5,164 posts

252 months

Sunday 17th June 2007
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stockhatcher said:

nono

1 LH
2FA
3FM or KR
lewis is on a roll, he seems to be able to do everything else that's asked of him, and he is showing similar form to his previous campaigns in gp2 and f3, that is the first few races to win, and dominant mid season,, a slight slump followed by a return to form.

i'd put money on LH winning up until germany.
ahem :cough: