Megasquirt
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Pink_Floyd

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900 posts

251 months

Saturday 16th June 2007
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I have been thinking about going the Megasquirt route when I get my car back together. Was going for fuel and ignition control, wasted spark, on a 4ltr sep engine. I see a few people have mentioned that they will be going this route but has anyone done it, was it easy, any particular problems to overcome. Hoping that this could become a discussion. I know that there is the megasquirt pages and forum but not to much mention of rover v8 conversions.

Zumbruk

7,848 posts

290 months

Saturday 16th June 2007
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PF, YHM.

That Daddy

19,460 posts

251 months

Saturday 16th June 2007
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It wont be easy dont kid yourself it will be,,,,,BUT when you have fitted and set it up you soon forget the hard work and boy will you notice the difference,response & pick up will be much improved,mapped ignition makes a huge improvment over the old bob weight dizzysmashmy winter project methinks.

Edited by That Daddy on Saturday 16th June 15:50

neal1980

2,584 posts

269 months

Saturday 16th June 2007
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Well Ive just picked up my megasquirt yesterday, Im gonna go wasted spark with a wideband lc1 sensor. Ive got a john eales crank wheel and sensor and im gonna wire it mostly through an old 14cux case that been butchered to get to the pins so to use the standard loom connector.

Ive been asking about it for ages but didnt get many responses on here but speak to Phil Ringwood www.extraefi.co.uk and see his cobra site build then you will be taken. Im just gonna have ago and see what happens.

Cheers

Neal

trackcar

6,453 posts

256 months

Saturday 16th June 2007
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neal1980 said:
Well Ive just picked up my megasquirt yesterday, Im gonna go wasted spark with a wideband lc1 sensor. Ive got a john eales crank wheel and sensor and im gonna wire it mostly through an old 14cux case that been butchered to get to the pins so to use the standard loom connector.

Ive been asking about it for ages but didnt get many responses on here but speak to Phil Ringwood www.extraefi.co.uk and see his cobra site build then you will be taken. Im just gonna have ago and see what happens.

Cheers

Neal
Phil and I worked on just such a ms/lucas hybrid project on my V8S .. if you're sticking MS onto an RV8 you need look no further than Phil (dax tojeiro on here). Top bloke thumbup

That Daddy

19,460 posts

251 months

Saturday 16th June 2007
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neal1980 said:
Well Ive just picked up my megasquirt yesterday, Im gonna go wasted spark with a wideband lc1 sensor. Ive got a john eales crank wheel and sensor and im gonna wire it mostly through an old 14cux case that been butchered to get to the pins so to use the standard loom connector.

Ive been asking about it for ages but didnt get many responses on here but speak to Phil Ringwood www.extraefi.co.uk and see his cobra site build then you will be taken. Im just gonna have ago and see what happens.

Cheers

Neal
Thats exactly what i wanna do to the letterthumbup

Pink_Floyd

Original Poster:

900 posts

251 months

Wednesday 27th June 2007
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Looking at the Megasquirt it does away with the AFM, why do most car manufacturers have them if megasquirt recons that they are not required.

spend

12,581 posts

281 months

Wednesday 27th June 2007
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I've often wondered why most cars have 4 doors as well hehe

Dave

Pink_Floyd

Original Poster:

900 posts

251 months

Wednesday 27th June 2007
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4 Doors is a cosmetic thing AFM is technical thing that i'd like to understand.

350Matt

3,911 posts

309 months

Wednesday 27th June 2007
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When a car is sold from new it has to pass the latest emissions requirements, an air flow meter helps them achieve this as they tend to measure air into the engine pretty accurately and cope with engine to engine variations very well.

Now you own the car all you have to pass is the MOT emissions which are laughable by comparison to the manufactures test, so the simpler method of using throttle position or manifold pressure for engine load will suffice.
Not only that throttle position method tends to give superior throttle response and is very easy to map, both considerations for a DIY installation.

Go and do it you won't regret it

Matt

That Daddy

19,460 posts

251 months

Wednesday 27th June 2007
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Map sensor & throttle position sensorsthumbup all you need even with closed loop(lambda sensors&cats)

neal1980

2,584 posts

269 months

Saturday 30th June 2007
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ive just mounted my wideband lc1 and Ive removed the standard sensors that im going to keep just in case it goes back to standard. Does anyone know the size / thread i need to get 2 bungs now. Or does anyone had a couple of old faulty sensors???

Thanks

Neal

wheeljack

610 posts

285 months

Saturday 30th June 2007
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neal1980 said:
ive just mounted my wideband lc1 and Ive removed the standard sensors that im going to keep just in case it goes back to standard. Does anyone know the size / thread i need to get 2 bungs now. Or does anyone had a couple of old faulty sensors???

Thanks

Neal
Neal

You can have my old knackered sensors, which I used for the same thing, TVR has been sold now! Email your address and I'll get them sent next week. Definitely moving a damned sight quicker than me on this project!

Cheers

Phil

Pink_Floyd

Original Poster:

900 posts

251 months

Sunday 1st July 2007
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Neal,
Where did you mount yor new wideband lc1 sensor if not in one of the original positions.

GreenV8S

31,025 posts

314 months

Sunday 1st July 2007
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Pink_Floyd said:
Neal,
Where did you mount yor new wideband lc1 sensor if not in one of the original positions.
You will need to weld a new sensor mounting bung into the exhaust. You can buy the bungs from the places that sell the sensors.

Pink_Floyd

Original Poster:

900 posts

251 months

Monday 2nd July 2007
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Roughly how much is the sensor and bung?

thenick

4,027 posts

242 months

Monday 2nd July 2007
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http://www.lambdasensor.com/main/mwide.htm This seems to be the place for the sensor...

I am also looking into this route at the moment and am trying to price it up properly but am having trouble as i'm not sure what I need! Currently i'm looking at Emerald but Megasquirt is also in the running and I guess this applies to both - what EXACTLY do I need to have the system running in my car? I've just spoken to a woman at Emerald and she wasn't entirely sure but seemed to think it was just:

- ECU
- Trig wheel/crank sensor
- Throttle pot (but can use old one)
- Air/water temp (can use old one)
- Coil Packs

Interesting as I thought you needed a wideband Lambda sensor but she seemed to think I didn't... Is this true? If it is then fine, if it isn't, then what setup do I use? Remove original lambda sensors, bung holes and replace with a single wideband screwed into the downpipe?

The Emerald lady also said there would be a discount if I purchased with one or more others if anyone is interested?

Nick

Pink_Floyd

Original Poster:

900 posts

251 months

Monday 2nd July 2007
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Where is the best place to mount a wideBand sensor if you are only having 1.

GreenV8S

31,025 posts

314 months

Monday 2nd July 2007
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Pink_Floyd said:
Where is the best place to mount a wideBand sensor if you are only having 1.
Anywhere convenient, it isn't fussy. Just make sure it is not anywhere that water inside the exhaust can dribble into, so if mounting in a horizontal pipe put it in the top rather than the bottom.

Pink_Floyd

Original Poster:

900 posts

251 months

Monday 2nd July 2007
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Presumably it has to be before the cat, could place it next to one of the existing sensors or is it better after both sides have met. I assume that the size and thread is different to the existing sensors and that is why you need another boss.
Is there a problem leaving the existing sensors in and just not using them.

From the prices at http://www.lambdasensor.com/main/mwide.htm  it would see silly not to use a wideband sensor with a better ecu.