Wanted - V8 Dutton - forgive me!
Discussion
Simple enough, I've been scanning fleabay and the classifieds etc for a few weeks, was very gutted to miss this...
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/171134.htm
..so if anyone happens to have similar, or see's one available, please do let me know.
Thank you one and all,
Gav.
PS - Yes I know there not the finest
but I am working on a bhp / 0-60 per £ spent basis.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/171134.htm
..so if anyone happens to have similar, or see's one available, please do let me know.
Thank you one and all,
Gav.
PS - Yes I know there not the finest
but I am working on a bhp / 0-60 per £ spent basis. Haha - it is a bit of a huilty pleasure isn't it
Think (Dutton-wise) there's quite a broad spectrum from cars which look and drive like dogs to some failry serious bits of machinery. Saw what looked like a very nice 2 litre zetec powered IRS-equipped one on ebay a while back.
Just heard such mixed reviews of them. Can't help thinking £2k would be better spent on a V8 Phaeton than a tired Robin Hood.
Think (Dutton-wise) there's quite a broad spectrum from cars which look and drive like dogs to some failry serious bits of machinery. Saw what looked like a very nice 2 litre zetec powered IRS-equipped one on ebay a while back.
Just heard such mixed reviews of them. Can't help thinking £2k would be better spent on a V8 Phaeton than a tired Robin Hood.
Duttons are so cheap that with a bit of effort and imagination you will have a real bargain. There's a wealth of expertise available from the friendly bunch who run the owners club. If you like retro looks, an S2 Phaeton is the best bet. You don't need a V8, but they sound great. A good bomb-proof Kent crossflow with a couple of big Webers is a good alternative, but if you're feeling flush, try a zetec. You can pick up a decent Dutton for under £2,000!! Just make sure the chassis is straight....
no.53 said:
A good mate of mine bought the car, was a good deal actually, now looks like this as we soon decided (1 mile) that the chassis was way to weak and flexy for a track day car!!
Can you elaborate a little? Seriously looking into getting an S1 Phaeton myself and a V8 kind of appeals.well basically the guy who designed the car got a ladder and bolted a v8 one end and an atlas on cart springs the other. this doesnt make for any type of handling whatsoever!
Since we wanted to produce a track day car we have set about triangulating the chassis with CDS tube and fitting a complete roll cage - unfortunately I dont seem to be able to paste in a photo.
We are also fitting coil overs all round with modified mountings and an edelbrock 4 barrel carb.
Since we wanted to produce a track day car we have set about triangulating the chassis with CDS tube and fitting a complete roll cage - unfortunately I dont seem to be able to paste in a photo.
We are also fitting coil overs all round with modified mountings and an edelbrock 4 barrel carb.
Could have sworn the car in the ad was an S1. Done my homework looking into getting one recently and apparently the cars which had 5 link axles as standard were the,
late B type
B plus
Malaga
Series 1 Phaeton
Handling on these shouldn't be too far off the other basic Lotus 7 clones (Locost etc) I thought it was generally the later cars (S2 and beyond) which didn't handle well care of their cart springs. I'm told apart from the basic problem of axle location, it's also more difficult to adjust the spring rate or ride height of a cart sprung car, hence they were often running round on springs intended for a car twice the weight. Takes it back to the vintage ideology of stiff springs, soft chassis. Worked well enough for Ettore Bugatti I suppose
late B type
B plus
Malaga
Series 1 Phaeton
Handling on these shouldn't be too far off the other basic Lotus 7 clones (Locost etc) I thought it was generally the later cars (S2 and beyond) which didn't handle well care of their cart springs. I'm told apart from the basic problem of axle location, it's also more difficult to adjust the spring rate or ride height of a cart sprung car, hence they were often running round on springs intended for a car twice the weight. Takes it back to the vintage ideology of stiff springs, soft chassis. Worked well enough for Ettore Bugatti I suppose
Interesting I didnt know that they made a 'works' (lol) 5 link set up as we are gonig to convert this car by our own deign - anyone know where we can get the factory bitz from?
In the meantime we have reduced the rear end to one spring and fitted gaz coilovers all the way round with new top mounting plate as std were weak and in wrong plane.
In the meantime we have reduced the rear end to one spring and fitted gaz coilovers all the way round with new top mounting plate as std were weak and in wrong plane.
Also had a S3 Phaeton, first thing was ditch the cart springs and got Dutton to do their 5 link rear axle conversion. car drove great, power went down well and drove like it was on rails, Used the car everyday for many years, drilled holes in the floor as I got fed up bailing the water out of the cabin!
no.53 said:
Interesting I didnt know that they made a 'works' (lol) 5 link set up as we are gonig to convert this car by our own deign - anyone know where we can get the factory bitz from?
In the meantime we have reduced the rear end to one spring and fitted gaz coilovers all the way round with new top mounting plate as std were weak and in wrong plane.
It was standard on the early cars I think (the ones I listed above) which used a collection of different donor parts and were loosely based on the Lotus 7 suspension. The later cars went to a single (Escort) donor and so used the cart springs from that, but judging what Ozzie Dave said, there is (or atleast was) a factory 5 link conversion available too. It shouldn't be especially difficult to this yourself if you have a little mechanical knowledge and a welding set.In the meantime we have reduced the rear end to one spring and fitted gaz coilovers all the way round with new top mounting plate as std were weak and in wrong plane.
Rebuilda said:
IIRC the Eagle SS is a phaeton. Produced by eagle cars after they bought the jigs and moulds from tim Dutton...
I thought the SS was the slopey nosed 2 seater? The Eagle version of the phaeton was a number rather than letters? (but as you say from the Dutton moulds)Edited by Davi on Wednesday 15th August 09:05
SS was the slopey thing with gull-wing doors, GT40 & Muira inspired, indeed its just gone back on the market as the TEAC(hope I've spelt it correct) originally beetle based , then cortina etc. also made the RV jeep, wasn't owned by a relatice of Tim dutton which was why it took on some of the Dutton stuff later?
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