HELP ON MY CHOICES OF NEXT BIKE
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Right went to Fowlers and sat on them all today.
I know the proof of the Pudding is in the test ride but just thought I would still get thoughts from others on these bikes.
I'm looking for a daily commute that will keep me smiling on a weekend balst. Be a good next bike for a newbie (sort of). reliable and enjoyable to ride
I like the KTM beacuse its different and had very good reviews, much the same for the other 2. I liek the sit up and beg of the Triple and KTM but also like the 750's looks.
help me I do also like the looks and reviews of the Aprilia Tuono
Also need to ask is it worth paying the extra for the Superduke R £300 about extra, Aprilia Tuono factory?
also I was looking at getting either new, ex demo or no older then 1 yo. whats they best and why. I don't wish to waste money but just though |i would aslo ask your thoughts on getting a new/nearly new bike
many thanks
Matt
I know the proof of the Pudding is in the test ride but just thought I would still get thoughts from others on these bikes.
I'm looking for a daily commute that will keep me smiling on a weekend balst. Be a good next bike for a newbie (sort of). reliable and enjoyable to ride
I like the KTM beacuse its different and had very good reviews, much the same for the other 2. I liek the sit up and beg of the Triple and KTM but also like the 750's looks.
help me I do also like the looks and reviews of the Aprilia Tuono
Also need to ask is it worth paying the extra for the Superduke R £300 about extra, Aprilia Tuono factory?
also I was looking at getting either new, ex demo or no older then 1 yo. whats they best and why. I don't wish to waste money but just though |i would aslo ask your thoughts on getting a new/nearly new bike
many thanks
Matt
_Dave_ said:
RemaL said:
Right went to Fowlers and sat on them all today.
Be a good next bike for a newbie (sort of). reliable and enjoyable to ride
Aprilia Tuono factory?
Matt
Funny seeing these two in the same paragraph, I really want a Tuono if that helps! Be a good next bike for a newbie (sort of). reliable and enjoyable to ride
Aprilia Tuono factory?
Matt
RemaL said:
Right went to Fowlers and sat on them all today.
I know the proof of the Pudding is in the test ride but just thought I would still get thoughts from others on these bikes.
I'm looking for a daily commute that will keep me smiling on a weekend balst. Be a good next bike for a newbie (sort of). reliable and enjoyable to ride
I like the KTM beacuse its different and had very good reviews, much the same for the other 2. I liek the sit up and beg of the Triple and KTM but also like the 750's looks.
help me I do also like the looks and reviews of the Aprilia Tuono
Also need to ask is it worth paying the extra for the Superduke R £300 about extra, Aprilia Tuono factory?
also I was looking at getting either new, ex demo or no older then 1 yo. whats they best and why. I don't wish to waste money but just though |i would aslo ask your thoughts on getting a new/nearly new bike
many thanks
Matt
I had a KTM 640 LC 4 for eighteen months and had no problems with reliability or bit's falling off, mind you I used to change the Oil every 600 miles, two oil filters and had to bleed the oil through the frame. only bad point.I know the proof of the Pudding is in the test ride but just thought I would still get thoughts from others on these bikes.
I'm looking for a daily commute that will keep me smiling on a weekend balst. Be a good next bike for a newbie (sort of). reliable and enjoyable to ride
I like the KTM beacuse its different and had very good reviews, much the same for the other 2. I liek the sit up and beg of the Triple and KTM but also like the 750's looks.
help me I do also like the looks and reviews of the Aprilia Tuono
Also need to ask is it worth paying the extra for the Superduke R £300 about extra, Aprilia Tuono factory?
also I was looking at getting either new, ex demo or no older then 1 yo. whats they best and why. I don't wish to waste money but just though |i would aslo ask your thoughts on getting a new/nearly new bike
many thanks
Matt
I've ridden a few Aprilia's, and I think they have a really strong engine, and seem to be reasonably built, getting parts if something goes wrong may take a while though.
The only thing I can say about the Tuono, is that I had the mother of all scraps at Croft last year with one, and as I've said before was seriously impressed. I realize that will not make it a good road bike, but, it can't be bad with the sit up and beg riding style, good looks are a plus point with it too. In my humble opinion.
Hell, I would even have one of those myself. Maybe..
If you buy secondhand you may save a couple of grand that will go towards insurance/trick parts, or if you go for brand new you will have piece of mind with the extra years warranty, although I've not heard of Aprilia's going wrong in a big way.
John.
Tuono.
RemaL said:
Ok nothing about the triple which I did like when sitting on it.
I do like the sit up and beg style of riding but then againi'm not used to anything else
Read the 999 thread then. See what a previous owner has to say about Triumph.I do like the sit up and beg style of riding but then againi'm not used to anything else
My Brother in law had one of the early 1200 Trophy's which he still raves about, and I also liked.
I'm not that keen on the looks of the new ones, but it won't be hard to get one for the day, so to broaden my opinions I might give one a go.
john.
Have a sit on a TDM900 too 
Great ground clearance for kerbs in the city, enough torque to pull a tree down, comfy sit up riding position, high enough to see over cars in the city, comfy, more than capable on the twisties with easy pegs down action
The only negative is top speed. At anything over 100, the wind buffets you around too much. This can be cured with a taller screen, but they look ugly.
They're a surprisingly capable bike that the Europeans love, but never quite caught on over here.
Great ground clearance for kerbs in the city, enough torque to pull a tree down, comfy sit up riding position, high enough to see over cars in the city, comfy, more than capable on the twisties with easy pegs down action
The only negative is top speed. At anything over 100, the wind buffets you around too much. This can be cured with a taller screen, but they look ugly.
They're a surprisingly capable bike that the Europeans love, but never quite caught on over here.
I'm happy with the Triple but I haven't tried any of the other bikes you mention to compare against. The Sprint had the same engine and there were no problems with that really and no problems with build quality apart from the shaky mirrors due to insufficient bracing on the mounting. Took it all over Europe, two up, full luggage, motorways, twisties.
The Triple has a more aggresive Tune and is lighter, more fun. I'm pretty sure the Triple will be a bike that I can just turn the key and go.
The only comment I can see on the 999 thread is about a T509 but he has a negative about every bike he's had in some way or another. Triumph dealers seem to be pretty good at giving you a bike for an hour or two so go try one on the road.
The Triple has a more aggresive Tune and is lighter, more fun. I'm pretty sure the Triple will be a bike that I can just turn the key and go.
The only comment I can see on the 999 thread is about a T509 but he has a negative about every bike he's had in some way or another. Triumph dealers seem to be pretty good at giving you a bike for an hour or two so go try one on the road.
Bit weird that, no demo's. I wouldn't buy a bike (which lets face it, is a major investment with the heart as well as head) without taking it for a ride. Perhaps try another dealer?
I'm biased as I have a Falco - and considered the Tuono - the engine is a belter and they are reknowned for their reliability.
When I was last in Fowlers they had the SuperDuke at 6999 I think and 0% finance - that deal still on? They also has some end of line but new 955 Daytonas for 5k OTR which seemed a bargain to me.
I'm biased as I have a Falco - and considered the Tuono - the engine is a belter and they are reknowned for their reliability.
When I was last in Fowlers they had the SuperDuke at 6999 I think and 0% finance - that deal still on? They also has some end of line but new 955 Daytonas for 5k OTR which seemed a bargain to me.
hornetrider said:
Bit weird that, no demo's. I wouldn't buy a bike (which lets face it, is a major investment with the heart as well as head) without taking it for a ride. Perhaps try another dealer?
not many dealers in my area. Kwak, ducati, Fowlers who sell new honda's, Suzuki's, KTm's, Triumph's etc..I will have to google KTm to see an close dealers
Wayne Mounter is next closest in Ponty.
http://www.ktm.com/Dealer-Locator.77.0.html
http://www.ktm.com/Dealer-Locator.77.0.html
Edited by hornetrider on Wednesday 20th June 11:24
RemaL said:
hornetrider said:
Bit weird that, no demo's. I wouldn't buy a bike (which lets face it, is a major investment with the heart as well as head) without taking it for a ride. Perhaps try another dealer?
not many dealers in my area. Kwak, ducati, Fowlers who sell new honda's, Suzuki's, KTm's, Triumph's etc..I will have to google KTm to see an close dealers
I have to say that one of the pluses of 'converting' to the ways of US 'tractor' ownership was the shear joy of dealing with a hugely co-operative and anything you want dealer....e.g.
"Test ride sir, certainley, any particular model, all of them, a couple of hours no problem, have it the whole day if you want and have a blat down to the coast, whatever you want"......
Not want you want to hear of course.......but I have to say they wouldn't get my money if they didn't offer a test ride.
Edited by aeropilot on Wednesday 20th June 21:10
aeropilot said:
RemaL said:
hornetrider said:
Bit weird that, no demo's. I wouldn't buy a bike (which lets face it, is a major investment with the heart as well as head) without taking it for a ride. Perhaps try another dealer?
not many dealers in my area. Kwak, ducati, Fowlers who sell new honda's, Suzuki's, KTm's, Triumph's etc..I will have to google KTm to see an close dealers
I have to say that one of the pluses of 'converting' to the ways of US 'tractor' ownership was the shear joy of dealing with a hugely co-operative and anything you want dealer....e.g.
"Test ride sir, certainley, any particular model, all of them, a couple of hours no problem, have it the whole day if you want and have a blat down to the coast, whatever you want"......
Not want you want to hear of course.......but I have to say they wouldn't get my money if they didn't offer a test ride.
Edited by aeropilot on Wednesday 20th June 21:10
I have had two speed triples great bikes, test rode a superduke which really impressed me, however I think a less experianced rider would find the Triumph easier to get on with, the KTM is edgy, turns really quickly and the front end was getting light accelerating in 1st 2nd and 3rd.
Just my 2p worth
Just my 2p worth
I have a 2006 Speed Triple and went through almost the exact same options as you did. Was comparing it to the Tuono and Superduke. Test rode all and found them all to be excellent. When riding at 9/10ths the Tuono is a bit more composed than the KTM or Triple, but I don't usually ride that hard on the road very often. I found the Triple to be the best to get on with and best matched to my skill level (comming of 12months on a SV650S). Suspension can be a bit stiff as stock on some of our bumby australian roads. Incredible amount of tourque and very useable shove from as low as 2000rpm. (checkout the dyno charts below)
All in all I'm extremely happpy with mine. Have had it for 6 months now and 12000km. It's done commuting,weekend rideouts, the odd 4-5 day holiday and even a couple of trackdays without the slighest hiccup.
If you are a trackday regular the higher spec suspension and steering damper of the Superduke R or Tuono Factory may be worth a look.
HP
Torque
There is a good streetfighters grouptest on http://www.biketestusa.com
All in all I'm extremely happpy with mine. Have had it for 6 months now and 12000km. It's done commuting,weekend rideouts, the odd 4-5 day holiday and even a couple of trackdays without the slighest hiccup.
If you are a trackday regular the higher spec suspension and steering damper of the Superduke R or Tuono Factory may be worth a look.
HP
Torque
There is a good streetfighters grouptest on http://www.biketestusa.com
If the bike weights are similar, looking at those charts I'd say the Triumph will feel punchier and more responsive. It's interesting that right throughout it's rev range it outperforms all of it's rivals, all bar the last 1,000 rpm. Torque curve is superb too.
Nice. Makes me wish I'd test ridden one before buying my Fazer now.
Nice. Makes me wish I'd test ridden one before buying my Fazer now.
The quoted weights are the same for the Triple and Tuono. The factory is quoted at 4kg less and I can't remember what the KTM is. All be it the quoted weights are usually off by a bit. In the real world you wouldn't notice it much apart from the lightweight weels on the factory reducing unpsrung weight.
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