Nice - but not much use without an engine!
Nice - but not much use without an engine!
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jellison

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12,803 posts

306 months

Wednesday 20th June 2007
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http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/186839.htm

In fact why do people half strip cars of the bloody engine.

They know they will get more if the two sold separately - doubtfull.

smilewinkwink

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Wednesday 20th June 2007
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Because he wants the engine for his sagaris racer....

jellison

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12,803 posts

306 months

Wednesday 20th June 2007
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Ah - fair enough - not sure I'd give them 17 k for it with no lump.

Not in the market anyway!

teamHOLDENracing

5,105 posts

296 months

Wednesday 20th June 2007
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Jon, if you'd like to ask a quesion then why not do it directly?

Why is the car for sale without an engine? A number of reasons:

1) The engine currently in the car belongs to Darren Dowling. The engine I bought for the car in 2005 now has three holes in the block. In hindsight the engine was due a refresh and new rod bolts, but then hindsight is always perfect. The result is I don't actually have an engine for the car at the moment

2) Looking at the variety of engines in Tuscans in the Challenge and road car conversions, and taking acount of other threads such as 'Are there enough AJPs', it is quite clear that people have different views as to what engine they prefer. By selling the car as a rolling chassis I give the choice of engine to the buyer. If they want to race in the Challenge they can therefore chose their class. I'm not going to spend money on a replacement AJP race engine (and put the price up accordingly) if someone would rather put a Rover, Chevy or road AJP in it

3) Tuscan Challenge cars were traditionally always sold minus engines because the factory owned them. I bought both this car and the one I sold to Graham without engines

4) I would rather not have the grief that would come with selling it with an engine if it went bang first time out. As the ad says, if someone wants a race AJP I'll help them find one, they can make their own decision and agree their own price, and I'll even fit it for them.

Whichever way you look at it, its hardly stripping the car of its engine...

jellison

Original Poster:

12,803 posts

306 months

Wednesday 20th June 2007
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Cool - I was just scanning the for sale pages for a mate and spotted it.

Ha it must be one of the best ones as you say.

Hope it gets a good home. Hope it stays AJPV8, and not the RV8 route that is SUCH A WASTE.

Loverly Car. The Sag is on a Tuscan chassis as well with the Sag body on it? Is it having a hideous large rear wing?

teamHOLDENracing

5,105 posts

296 months

Wednesday 20th June 2007
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The Sagaris is indeed on a slightly modified Tuscan chassis. It has a rear wing and with the bonnet on it looks almost identical to the cars built by Tim and Terry, but quite diffent with it off.

jellison

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12,803 posts

306 months

Wednesday 20th June 2007
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Does the wheel base centre line line up ok - heard this was an are that had to be addressed if using a chim chassis (same wheelbase?) to get it all to look right?

Well done in the International 90s GTs by the way.

teamHOLDENracing

5,105 posts

296 months

Wednesday 20th June 2007
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Thanks

I shortened the wheel base of the Sagaris shell to suit the Tuscan chassis

Graham

16,381 posts

313 months

Wednesday 20th June 2007
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jellison said:
Hope it stays AJPV8, and not the RV8 route that is SUCH A WASTE.
Oi rage



hehe mind you the plans for my spare chassis are neither Rv8 or AJP, something you may approve of hehe


Edited to say :- The chim/Griff wheelbase is shorter than a Tuscan Challenge car..

Edited by Graham on Wednesday 20th June 16:53

jellison

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12,803 posts

306 months

Thursday 21st June 2007
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Cool - Similar to more bhp is good less is a waste (IMO). Fair enough if it was a top spec 4.5 original Tuscan RV8 (but doubt there are many or those about now and the power they many was always way over egged). AJPV8 (RACE) not std with some mods, or maybe the other route! (but heavier - bit more weight in a road car is fine, but I am paranoid about it in racers!). Either way it needs at least 400bhp at the very least.

On different tack - how are the grid sizes averaging out so far this year?

HUI

1,025 posts

277 months

Thursday 21st June 2007
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jellison said:
On different tack - how are the grid sizes averaging out so far this year?
You can see all the grids and results so far this year on the BRSCC section of MST

http://www.msttiming.com/brscc/2007/brscc.asp?seas...

Oulton Park 31st March

Mallory Park 9th April

Pembrey 12/13th May

Snetterton 17th June


Mrs Hui




teamHOLDENracing

5,105 posts

296 months

Thursday 21st June 2007
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Hi Maureen wavey

HUI

1,025 posts

277 months

Thursday 21st June 2007
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Hi Andy!

wavey

fredtonge

159 posts

275 months

Sunday 24th June 2007
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just a quick note about the value of andys car, 17 thousand would be two third,s the price if you was to try and sourse the parts not with standing, that it was one of the best turned out cars in the series ,and thats without labour costs to build it

jellison

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12,803 posts

306 months

Monday 25th June 2007
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I know a car (best Griff200 racer I have seen cost over 110k to build) and is up for 65 (you never get near what you put in).