vat on food?
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unclemark123

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883 posts

238 months

Friday 22nd June 2007
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please advise me....

i always thought food was vat free?

so looking at a recipt from today at a little chef it had a vat breakdown in it ?????

smartie

2,630 posts

303 months

Friday 22nd June 2007
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hot (ie cooked) takeaway and restaurant food has VAT on it.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,038 posts

265 months

Friday 22nd June 2007
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smartie said:
hot (ie cooked) takeaway and restaurant food has VAT on it.
Ain't it eat in has, takeaway ain't, and luxury food always does?

Eric Mc

125,768 posts

295 months

Friday 22nd June 2007
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Nothing so simple.

All eat in restaurant food is charged at 17.5%
All takeaway hot prepared food is 17.5%
Most shop bought basic foods are 0%
There are lots of "food stuffs" (such as confectionaries) which are 17.5%

smartie

2,630 posts

303 months

Friday 22nd June 2007
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cold takeaway food, ie ham butty, is zero rated. Clever innit!

Do you remember when this was brought in one fish & chip shop owner was selling salt & vinegar for £1 and you got free fish & chips! Don't think the scam lasted long!

Edited by smartie on Friday 22 June 22:37

Eric Mc

125,768 posts

295 months

Friday 22nd June 2007
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No it didn't.

pugwash4x4

7,682 posts

251 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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there are all sorts off oddities

as a fish and chip shop owner i have to charge VAT on hot chicken. Tesco (for some reason) doesn't have to charge VAT on hot freshly cooked chicken.

VAT isn't charged on staple foods (anything with refined sugar isn't a staple food basically), however during the second world war fish and chips were neither rationed nor VATable- changed afterwards.

cakes AREN'T vatable, but biscuits are (on the grounds that biscuits are an unnecessary luxury, but cake is a staple). There is the rather famous case of the jaffa cakes being told to pay VAT and going to court about it. They produced a huge Jaffa CAKE and HMCE was forced to back down. However as jaffa cake is not a generic term for a "type" of cake (like battenburg etc) youcan now flog anything that looks like a jaffa cake as a jaffa cake! bet you didn't also know that the orangey bit on a jaffa cake is actually mostly apricot.

Eric Mc

125,768 posts

295 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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Nothing was VATable in WW2 - VAT only came in in 1973.

pugwash4x4

7,682 posts

251 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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well i was right then biggrin

Eric Mc

125,768 posts

295 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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It was a compulsory requirement for joining the EEC. Old fashioned "Sales/Purchase Tax" was abolished to make way for it.

Simpo Two

92,942 posts

295 months

Wednesday 27th June 2007
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Eric Mc said:
It was a compulsory requirement for joining the EEC.
Good old Edward Heath rolleyes

Eric Mc

125,768 posts

295 months

Wednesday 27th June 2007
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It's mandatory for all EU countries to put a VAT system in place when they join.

It's such a good way of collecting revenue, that a number of non-EU countries have adopted it as well. My hunch is that the UK would have a VAT system anyway whether it was in the EU or not.

As I said earlier, it merely replaced an older form of Sales/Purchase tax - which was almost as complex.

Leftie

11,838 posts

265 months

Sunday 1st July 2007
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Eric Mc said:
Nothing so simple.

All eat in restaurant food is charged at 17.5%
All takeaway hot prepared food is 17.5%
Most shop bought basic foods are 0%
There are lots of "food stuffs" (such as confectionaries) which are 17.5%
Instant coffee (ie in a jar) isn't VATable according to my friendly VAT inspector, who proudly required the 65p I had claimed back.

Matt H

542 posts

252 months

Monday 2nd July 2007
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[quote=Leftie
Instant coffee (ie in a jar) isn't VATable according to my friendly VAT inspector, who proudly required the 65p I had claimed back.
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wish that was all our vat inspector had asked for.......

ItsTony

960 posts

247 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2007
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smartie said:
cold takeaway food, ie ham butty, is zero rated. Clever innit!

Do you remember when this was brought in one fish & chip shop owner was selling salt & vinegar for £1 and you got free fish & chips! Don't think the scam lasted long!

Edited by smartie on Friday 22 June 22:37
Does this mean microwaveable meals are zero rated. M&S must be making a killing selling microwave meals at £4, especially if they don't have to pay VAT.

Eric Mc

125,768 posts

295 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2007
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Yes - provided the food in the "ready meal" pack falls into the Zero VAT category.