Swastika emblem in Cartier 'Style et Luxe' participant

Swastika emblem in Cartier 'Style et Luxe' participant

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Virage166

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210 posts

216 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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Did anyone else notice that the Ford flat-head V8 woodie in the Cartier 'Style et Luxe' concours d'elegance had a swastika emblem cleary visible screwed to his dashboard and wonder why a car like that was allowed in?

.Adam.

1,823 posts

264 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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How old was the car? Don't forget that until the Nazi's got hold of it, the Swastika was a symbol for good luck.

Virage166

Original Poster:

210 posts

216 months

Tuesday 26th June 2007
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The Nazi Party formally adopted this symbol in 1920. The car was from 1937.

Edited by Virage166 on Tuesday 26th June 21:40

Eric Mc

122,053 posts

266 months

Wednesday 27th June 2007
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The Swastika is an ancient symbol and was used by many other orgnaisations besides the Nazi party.

The Finnish and Latvian air forces used Swastika logos pre and during WW2.

In 1937, there would not have been any real problems with Swastika emblems on personal belongings.

havoc

30,086 posts

236 months

Wednesday 27th June 2007
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Moreover, the Nazi swastika was inverted to most others around...did you see which way around this one was - the other way is actually (still) a religious symbol!

TheOriginalGT40

334 posts

205 months

Thursday 28th June 2007
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The swastika is an equilateral cross with its arms bent at right angles, in either right-facing or left-facing forms. The term is derived from Sanskrit svasti, meaning well-being. The Thai greeting sawasdee is from the same root, carrying the same implication.

It is a widely-used symbol in Dharmic religions (Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism). Hindus often decorate the swastika with a dot in each quadrant. In India, it is common enough to be a part of several Devanagari fonts. It is also a symbol in the modern unicode. It is often imprinted on religious texts, marriage invitations, decorations etc. It is used to mark religious flags in Jainism and to mark Buddhist temples in Asia.

Archaeological evidence of swastika shaped ornaments goes back to the Neolithic period. In 1920 the swastika was appropriated as a Nazi symbol, and has since then become a controversial motif as a consequence. In the Western world, it is this usage as a symbol of Nazism that is most familiar, and this political association has largely eclipsed its historical status in the East.

There is nothing wrong with this Symbol, it's origin has been blighted by the use of the Nazi followers, just as the British National Party have tried to hijack the Union Flag and now we are seeing the PC brigade (as shown at Wimbledon this year with flags being taken away from spectators!) tarnishing all those who wish to feel proud of flying the Union Flag.

A local guy here in Bedfordshire was fined recently for hanging the Flag of St George out of his window. He was informed that it would cause offence to others who lived nearby to him. An English man, in England, being fined for showing an English flag - what is this country coming too!!!!!

Edited by TheOriginalGT40 on Thursday 28th June 11:30

L1OFF

3,364 posts

257 months

Thursday 28th June 2007
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There is an Underground station on the district line with the swastika motif inlaid into the floor.


:J:

2,593 posts

226 months

Thursday 28th June 2007
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TheOriginalGT40 said:
A local guy here in Bedfordshire was fined recently for hanging the Flag of St George out of his window. He was informed that it would cause offence to others who lived nearby to him. An English man, in England, being fined for showing an English flag - what is this country coming too!!!!!
That sort of thing makes my blood boil !!!

I am going home to hang some flags in the hope the Council come and complain wink

D__I__A__B__L__O

346 posts

209 months

Thursday 28th June 2007
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I had a St Georges in the cockpit smile of my BT van and got told to remove that too, said that it could cause offense to people when i turned up at there house !! I basically said off and its my right to be ENGLISH, stuck with it but after a month of being told to remove it and countless arguments etc they started going down the P45 in post route so thought better of it frown
Im not a racist but goddamn, why cant I have a St Georges flag, i was born in England and the past however many generations of the family have too, if somebody comes to England they should get ready to see some St Georges !!! BT said my flag was a Union Jack but I beg to differ on that one

TheOriginalGT40

334 posts

205 months

Friday 29th June 2007
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[quote=DI__A__B__LO]I had a St Georges in the cockpit smile of my BT van and got told to remove that too, said that it could cause offense to people when i turned up at there house !! I basically said off and its my right to be ENGLISH, stuck with it but after a month of being told to remove it and countless arguments etc they started going down the P45 in post route so thought better of it frown
Im not a racist but goddamn, why cant I have a St Georges flag, i was born in England and the past however many generations of the family have too, if somebody comes to England they should get ready to see some St Georges !!! BT said my flag was a Union Jack but I beg to differ on that one
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Surely BT must know the differnce between the St George and Union Flags? BTW it should only be called the Union Jack when flown on a ship. On land it is the Union Flag smile

Eric Mc

122,053 posts

266 months

Wednesday 4th July 2007
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Not quite true - this point is always brought up when discussing the Union Flag/Jack. Both terms are correct - wherever the flag is being flown.

In the UK, no one can fly the Union Flag/Jack on a premises without local authority approval. That has been the case for decades and is nothing to do with PCness - it is just part of local planning regulations. It is more to do with trying to ensure that flags flown are kept in good condition. There is nothing more ugly (and disrespectful) than a tatty and dirty flag flapping in the breeze.