200tdi or 300tdi defender
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200 TDI is best in my opinion, we are now seeing them in for service at over 300K plus miles, only problems is head gasket and cam belt.
Have got 32 years experiance with L/Rovers, and my 200 TDI is just great, others will say the 300 TDI, matter of choice but give me a 200 or 300 any day in place of a TD5. www.ajstyres.co.uk
Have got 32 years experiance with L/Rovers, and my 200 TDI is just great, others will say the 300 TDI, matter of choice but give me a 200 or 300 any day in place of a TD5. www.ajstyres.co.uk
For me, the best engine is either the 200 or 300tdi, go for condition and don't worry yourself it the landy you by has either one of these engines in.
But saying that I have a TD5 now and love it. As an offroading engine, the 300tdi is better, but for me and the road use I do, the TD5 is better (mine has a GKN overdrive). If i was to have a landy as a second car, then I would have a Tdi.
I really think that my chose in engines goes 300/200 Tdi then TD5 but only after 2002 as i've been told they iorned out some problems.
But saying that I have a TD5 now and love it. As an offroading engine, the 300tdi is better, but for me and the road use I do, the TD5 is better (mine has a GKN overdrive). If i was to have a landy as a second car, then I would have a Tdi.
I really think that my chose in engines goes 300/200 Tdi then TD5 but only after 2002 as i've been told they iorned out some problems.
Thanks again all!
I'm after the Defender as it has 12 seats & I'll soon have five children (currently on three). So it's not for it's off-road abilities but more for packaging as it gives me enough seats and luggage space which I can't get in things like an MPV. The only other option I'm considering is something like a MB Vito mini-bus - but that just fills me with dread!
The overdrive - can that be fitted to older 110's? The other thing I was thinking of was freewheling front hubs - both of these are really looking at improving fuel economy on long runs - should there be something else I need to consider along those lines?
ta
I'm after the Defender as it has 12 seats & I'll soon have five children (currently on three). So it's not for it's off-road abilities but more for packaging as it gives me enough seats and luggage space which I can't get in things like an MPV. The only other option I'm considering is something like a MB Vito mini-bus - but that just fills me with dread!
The overdrive - can that be fitted to older 110's? The other thing I was thinking of was freewheling front hubs - both of these are really looking at improving fuel economy on long runs - should there be something else I need to consider along those lines?
ta
steil said:
The overdrive - can that be fitted to older 110's? The other thing I was thinking of was freewheling front hubs - both of these are really looking at improving fuel economy on long runs - should there be something else I need to consider along those lines?ta
Your two chooses are either fit a transfer box from a disco or fit an overdrive. I didn’t want to chip my TD5, so went down the overdrive rote as that keeps the defenders gearing the same. You can fit an overdrive to any 300tdi and TD5 gear box (not sure about the 200tdi though although I’m 99% sure you can).You can’t fit freewheeling hubs to a defender as unlike a series which is basically RWD they a permanent 4WD, so it would not move with them.
steil said:
Thanks again all!
I'm after the Defender as it has 12 seats & I'll soon have five children (currently on three). So it's not for it's off-road abilities but more for packaging as it gives me enough seats and luggage space which I can't get in things like an MPV. The only other option I'm considering is something like a MB Vito mini-bus - but that just fills me with dread!
The overdrive - can that be fitted to older 110's? The other thing I was thinking of was freewheling front hubs - both of these are really looking at improving fuel economy on long runs - should there be something else I need to consider along those lines?
ta
qulp 5 - congratulations....I'm after the Defender as it has 12 seats & I'll soon have five children (currently on three). So it's not for it's off-road abilities but more for packaging as it gives me enough seats and luggage space which I can't get in things like an MPV. The only other option I'm considering is something like a MB Vito mini-bus - but that just fills me with dread!
The overdrive - can that be fitted to older 110's? The other thing I was thinking of was freewheling front hubs - both of these are really looking at improving fuel economy on long runs - should there be something else I need to consider along those lines?
ta
Serious note, will some be ok in sideways seats? I presume if any are in baby seats they will be in the 2nd row facing foward and older children on boasters with the rear benches.
Would a mini bus be a better option from safety as in all forward facing seats. A lot better than side on and lap belts.
Yep, you can't use child seats on sideways facing seats.
Exmoor trim does a forward facing seat which will fit in the boot. I have a 300tdi County station wagon and it is great. It will cruise at 70 but it is on the noisy side. As mentioned you can convert the transfer box to that of a Disco. Can also uprate the intercooler and tweak the injector pump to improve performance.
You'll find that 300 station wagons are holding their value at the moment. They are like rocking horse poo at the moment.
Exmoor trim does a forward facing seat which will fit in the boot. I have a 300tdi County station wagon and it is great. It will cruise at 70 but it is on the noisy side. As mentioned you can convert the transfer box to that of a Disco. Can also uprate the intercooler and tweak the injector pump to improve performance.
You'll find that 300 station wagons are holding their value at the moment. They are like rocking horse poo at the moment.
Whilst the 200 may be a slightly better engine than the 300, with the 300 you getter a lighter clutch, nice gearbox and better brakes. I've also had an early TD5 110 Station Wagon, never got used to the throttle response.
As has been said good 300 TDi Defenders are the most sought after and in my opinion will hold their value well
As has been said good 300 TDi Defenders are the most sought after and in my opinion will hold their value well
I've had a Disco in the past which was great - currently have a 7-seater E-class merc - but once the seats are filled there's no seating. I was going to replace the rear lap belts for three-point or even a 4-point harness (if I can find one that's child sized) - can get this done by the chaps who fettle my race car.
I think the points re. minibus are entirely valid & logical - but hey this is a car I'm buying & I've never applied logic to that!
I don't suppose any of you are in the Reading are with an LR I could have a closer look at (i.e. without being hounded by a salesman to buy it) & perhaps a ride?
many thanks!
I think the points re. minibus are entirely valid & logical - but hey this is a car I'm buying & I've never applied logic to that!
I don't suppose any of you are in the Reading are with an LR I could have a closer look at (i.e. without being hounded by a salesman to buy it) & perhaps a ride?
many thanks!
Ive had a 200tdi defender and a 300tdi discovery and both were good engines in their day(I ownded them in the mid 90's).It was always the gearboxes that let these vehicles down.I took a 200tdi discovery in px the other day with 110k on the clock and it still pulled well but powerwise felt very dated alongside my 07 tdi(transit) Defender.
07 Transit 4x4 ?
Lets just wait and see !
If you need a reliable L/Rover Defender, there is only two choices, 200 or 300TDI, they will do what it says on the side of the packet, don't think the Transit will.
And if you can afford a NEW Defender thats just great, and "most" owners of NEW toys will say that "they are the best thing since sliced bread" but why can't people be honest, if it's not upto the job say so.
The person who started this thread would I am sure buy a new Defender if they could afford one so Transits don't come into this discussion.
In my opinion L/Rover started going in the wrong direction with the start of the TD5,
WHY DID THEY NOT TAKE UP THE OFFER OF THE 2.8 TVG ENGINE ????????
Lets just wait and see !
If you need a reliable L/Rover Defender, there is only two choices, 200 or 300TDI, they will do what it says on the side of the packet, don't think the Transit will.
And if you can afford a NEW Defender thats just great, and "most" owners of NEW toys will say that "they are the best thing since sliced bread" but why can't people be honest, if it's not upto the job say so.
The person who started this thread would I am sure buy a new Defender if they could afford one so Transits don't come into this discussion.
In my opinion L/Rover started going in the wrong direction with the start of the TD5,
WHY DID THEY NOT TAKE UP THE OFFER OF THE 2.8 TVG ENGINE ????????
steil
You need to try one with your child seats before you buy. I had a TD5 one for a year (12 seater), but the rear seats have very vertical backs on them and a lot of child seats do seem to fit very securely and move about a lot during travel.
With 5 children, I really think you should consider an MPV something like the Toyota Previa, which being a Toyota will go forever, has sliding doors, for access to the rear and still has a reasonable boot with the third row of seats in.
A friend of mine has just bought one, P reg 65K UK vehicle Diesel for £2500, £1100 on top for an LPG conversion and he has a great vehicle which will do the equivalent of 40mpg
davidy
You need to try one with your child seats before you buy. I had a TD5 one for a year (12 seater), but the rear seats have very vertical backs on them and a lot of child seats do seem to fit very securely and move about a lot during travel.
With 5 children, I really think you should consider an MPV something like the Toyota Previa, which being a Toyota will go forever, has sliding doors, for access to the rear and still has a reasonable boot with the third row of seats in.
A friend of mine has just bought one, P reg 65K UK vehicle Diesel for £2500, £1100 on top for an LPG conversion and he has a great vehicle which will do the equivalent of 40mpg
davidy
The TD5 is the best diesel engine Land Rover have ever made. there is no question of that fact. The tdi engines are also great but not as good as the td5. The only possible advantage of the tdi is that you dont need a diagnostics computer. Having said that td5's dont seem to go wrong.
I have had both and still have a td5, and have access to another 300tdi all the time if I want.
It is a good engine, but there have been 10 years of developemnt in between and that counts.
I am sick of people knocking the td5. Probably the same people who still cant get used to coil springs.......]
getting back to the OP tho, either of the TDI's will be great.
I have had both and still have a td5, and have access to another 300tdi all the time if I want.
It is a good engine, but there have been 10 years of developemnt in between and that counts.
I am sick of people knocking the td5. Probably the same people who still cant get used to coil springs.......]
getting back to the OP tho, either of the TDI's will be great.
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