XKD?
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Triple7

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Thursday 28th June 2007
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'XKD' - As in DIESEL!

Seems that BMW have stuck an oil burner in their 6 Series Coupe. Article here: http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...

There was some talk that the reason Jag called the new normally aspirated 4.2 XK, just 'XK' not XK8 like its predecessor, was because they were going to stick a diesel engine in the car at some point and have the 'XKD' in their line up. Any word from those in the know. wink

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Edited by Triple7 on Thursday 28th June 14:20

a8hex

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Thursday 28th June 2007
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Jaguar stopped making an XKD 50 years ago due to lack of customer demand.
A few remaining unsold XKD chassis were converted to form the basis of a new high performance road car the XKSS.

rofl

Triple7

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Thursday 28th June 2007
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Thanks for the history lesson!

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a8hex

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Thursday 28th June 2007
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Triple7 said:
Thanks for the history lesson!

G wink
Sorry,
Couldn't resist.


Maybe that's the answer to Jaguar's finacial troubles.
Maybe they should make some more XKDs. With the current supply vs demand situation I'm never going to afford one. If they made some more, maybe I could. biggrin

Triple7

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Thursday 28th June 2007
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I wonder if the TDV8 from Land Rover would fit under the bonnet of the new XK? Silly question, of course it won't!

Keep saving those pennies, I am!

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Paracetamol

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Friday 29th June 2007
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If they made a 3.6 twin turbo I'd be buying it! Not sure if the 2.7 would cut the mustard

a8hex

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Friday 29th June 2007
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Triple7 said:
I wonder if the TDV8 from Land Rover would fit under the bonnet of the new XK? Silly question, of course it won't!

Keep saving those pennies, I am!

G driving
Sorry, a couple of guys here appear to be in the know have said a few times that the TDV8 is too big to go between the front suspension towers of any of the Jaguar models.


182pilot

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Thursday 5th July 2007
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Diesel and a jag, it has a ring to it like pensioners and zimmer frames

a8hex

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Thursday 5th July 2007
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182pilot said:
Diesel and a jag, it has a ring to it like pensioners and zimmer frames
Actually old people do not drive Jags.
They can't
When they get old Jag drivers are forced to sell their beloved cars and buy BMWs or something else which is not so low to the ground. As they age they find that they can't get into Jaguars any longer and their knees certainly won't get them out anymore.


Triple7

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Thursday 5th July 2007
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Don't rise to the bait!

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Riccardino

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Thursday 5th July 2007
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a8hex said:
Sorry, a couple of guys here appear to be in the know have said a few times that the TDV8 is too big to go between the front suspension towers of any of the Jaguar models.
I can confirm from official people that it does not fit in the XJ but it should be ok with the XF.

For the XK, PLEASE DON'T!!!

Triple7

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Thursday 5th July 2007
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Riccardino said:
I can confirm from official people that it does not fit in the XJ but it should be ok with the XF
Sounds interesting...............

Riccardino

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Thursday 5th July 2007
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Triple7 said:
Riccardino said:
I can confirm from official people that it does not fit in the XJ but it should be ok with the XF
Sounds interesting...............
To be honest I was a little bit disappointed that the V8 could not be placed in the XJ. With the low weight of the aluminium XJ I think it would have been really good!!!!

Also a revised 2.7 is on its way (they are talking about 3 liters and about 250 hp!!!!

Aditya

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Thursday 5th July 2007
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Why don't Jag roll out the R-D6? It had the fantastic diesel that the production cars are using.
I hated it when it was first shown, but, it's grown on me now. It's a design that will appeal to a younger crowd. Make it a hardcore performer - for good measure, offer it with the supercharged V8 too.
Let's be honest, Jaguar has to take such steps if they want to survive. Right now, the future is very uncertain for them. Outside Great Britain, Merc and BMW have almost wiped them out. Now Audi has joined the fray too.

dominicf

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Thursday 5th July 2007
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182pilot said:
Diesel and a jag, it has a ring to it like pensioners and zimmer frames
Jaguar and diesel aren't new, in 1960 Jaguar bought Daimler and in the Daimler range launched that year was the stretched limousine known to the
masses as the 'Daimler Fleetline 78 seater', and a large Gardner diesel engine powered it at the back!laugh

Edited by dominicf on Thursday 5th July 17:16

a8hex

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Friday 6th July 2007
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dominicf said:
182pilot said:
Diesel and a jag, it has a ring to it like pensioners and zimmer frames
Jaguar and diesel aren't new, in 1960 Jaguar bought Daimler and in the Daimler range launched that year was the stretched limousine known to the
masses as the 'Daimler Fleetline 78 seater', and a large Gardner diesel engine powered it at the back!laugh

Edited by dominicf on Thursday 5th July 17:16
We already know that 182pilot is a bus driver so he should know this smile

Triple7

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Wednesday 11th July 2007
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In a car mag today ref: to XKD. Seems to confirm 2009, pending how the market takes to the BMW 6 series Diesel.

Also notes that sales of Jaguar in USA have dropped 25% this year, mainly coming from no S-Type sales (down 43% - 2000 units, no surprise seeing as it is a run out model) XJ not doing well either. However, sales in USA of XK up nearly 18%. With the XF next year I can see a revesal of the decline and hopefully the decesion not to sell Jag by Ford, however 19th July is deadline for offers I hear.

XF photographed on 'the ring' with an alleged 500BHP V8. Sweet. 3.0ltr diesel also confirmed-ish. (Not by Jag.)

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Riccardino

589 posts

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Wednesday 11th July 2007
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Please no XKD!!!!

Really I am not totally against diesel (I have have a S-Type 2.7d which is great) it is just not the car for that.

Who cares about BMW!!!!

Triple7

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Wednesday 11th July 2007
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Riccardino said:
Who cares about BMW!!!!
Jag don't care about BMW, but they care about the money customers have, wanting a diesel coupe.

I was anti-oil burners, but why not? If it sells make it. Jag will definitely make it handle well.

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Riccardino

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Wednesday 11th July 2007
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Triple7 said:
Riccardino said:
Who cares about BMW!!!!
Jag don't care about BMW, but they care about the money customers have, wanting a diesel coupe.

I was anti-oil burners, but why not? If it sells make it. Jag will definitely make it handle well.

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I am sure diesel can be great and even better than petrol in some kind of car but I really do not understand why you might want to have the diesel on a car like that.
I really do not understand and that has nothing to do with Jaguar.
Also Porsche never made the diesel available on its 911 and it is still the best selling. I would say that there should be other things they can do to sell it even better (and sales of the XK are veeery good)

PS: I was also antidiesel and did not like too much automatic gearbox but then I tested the S-Type 2.7 and I bought it !!!!!)

Edited by Riccardino on Wednesday 11th July 19:28