Question about truvelo type cameras...
Question about truvelo type cameras...
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zax

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1,067 posts

283 months

Sunday 25th May 2003
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A few of these cameras have popped up near me. Not sure if they're actually made by Truvelo but they work on a similar idea, sensors embedded in the road a few metres ahead of the camera measure speed.

The cameras are set up to work in one direction, and the sensors only cover half of the road surface - the lane heading in the opposite direction is sensor free. Most of the cameras are on straight sections of road with almost 1km visibility. So I was wondering, should somebody be travelling too quickly would pulling out in an overtaking style and passing the camera in the opposite side of the road still set it off? I've seen a couple of folks do just this and it's made me curious

All Terrain

838 posts

277 months

Sunday 25th May 2003
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I think you would. I know some chump that tried doing that with a normal camera. was goin so fast lost his license

hertsbiker

6,443 posts

291 months

Sunday 25th May 2003
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absolutely not ! - teh bloody things only work where the sensors are buried, therefore if you use the other side of the road , a well known "safety" aid, then you get away with it... great huh? the best way to avoid a nicking is to drive (possibly) dangerously.

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deltaf

6,806 posts

273 months

Sunday 25th May 2003
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Gatso! Making the roads safer for all!.....bollox....

FourWheelDrift

91,562 posts

304 months

Sunday 25th May 2003
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Interesting fact you may not have known.

As well as making scameras Truvelo also make guns www.army-technology.com/contractors/machine_guns/truvelo/index.html - Sniper rifles to be precise.

Wouldn't it be very apt then if people take revenge on the cameras with guns made by the same company

zax

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1,067 posts

283 months

Monday 26th May 2003
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Interesting! I had thought that 1) if the sensors cover only half of the road they couldn't possibly detect speed on the other side accurately 2) they must have some sort of function to check which "direction" you're travelling in anyway...

One of the cameras has been placed just inside a speed limit change from 100km/h to 80km/h. But when the camera was put there they moved the speed limit sign on the opposite carriageway about 500m further down the road. So for 500m the speed limit heading east is 80km/h and heading west it's 100km/h. Again this suggests to me that the sensors don't cover the whole road.

And one more observation which came to me after cycling over the sensors at the weekend - surely instead of attacking the cameras the easiest way to disable one of these would be to take a pick axe and sever the sensor connections? A bit more stealthy too... not that I condone that sort of thing

deltaf

6,806 posts

273 months

Monday 26th May 2003
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Its called a 4 inch nail Zax, and its hammered nicely into the top of the loop so cutting the connections. Some of the older designs used pneumatics, basically an empty air filled tube protruding slightly above the surface with a pressure transducer to pick up the pressure pulses of cars going over.
All too easy allegedly...

ledfoot

777 posts

272 months

Monday 26th May 2003
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zax said: easiest way to disable one of these would be to take a pick axe and sever the sensor connections?


Surely that will just result in 2 weeks of roadworks while they install a new sensor and resurface the road. This will just result in more traffic delays which will stop you from speeding, and also increased council tax bill, as it's you and me that have to pay for any work done.



>> Edited by ledfoot on Monday 26th May 12:06

soulpatch

4,693 posts

278 months

Monday 26th May 2003
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ledfoot said:

zax said: easiest way to disable one of these would be to take a pick axe and sever the sensor connections?


Surely that will just result in 2 weeks of roadworks while they install a new sensor and resurface the road. This will just result in more traffic delays which will stop you from speeding, and also increased council tax bill, as it's you and me that have to pay for any work done.



>> Edited by ledfoot on Monday 26th May 12:06


...we are going to pay for it whether it gets damaged or not so why not make it how WE want it - TOTALLY FKED!

pesty

42,655 posts

276 months

Monday 26th May 2003
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FourWheelDrift said: Interesting fact you may not have known.

As well as making scameras Truvelo also make guns www.army-technology.com/contractors/machine_guns/truvelo/index.html - Sniper rifles to be precise.

Wouldn't it be very apt then if people take revenge on the cameras with guns made by the same company


The Truvelo SR .50 is a specialised anti-material rifle with outstanding quality and accuracy. Targets identified for this rifle are heavy armaments with sophisticated electronic guiding and sighting equipment.


Bet that would make a Nice big hole in the side of one sounds like they actualy designed it for the job