997 Carrera S v 996 GT3
Discussion
Considering some Pork for my next car. I currently have an Exige for weekend use and a scruffy Rover as my everyday snotter.
Considering one car to do both functions.
I have a short drive (5 miles) to work and the car would be used for fast road use with a few long distance trips to the continent each year. Might do one or two track days each year(my bank manager is startig to get fed up with my current expensive rubber fetish)
I know a 997 would make a good, comfortable everyday comuter but would it allow enough driving pleasure in sport mode to make it a good weekend / long distance GT?
Coming from an Exige I love the thought of the more hardcore GT3 but unless I am going to track it regulary will it be too compromised for my intended use?
I also like the more up to date interior of the 997.
Anyone tried both as an only car?
Considering one car to do both functions.
I have a short drive (5 miles) to work and the car would be used for fast road use with a few long distance trips to the continent each year. Might do one or two track days each year(my bank manager is startig to get fed up with my current expensive rubber fetish)
I know a 997 would make a good, comfortable everyday comuter but would it allow enough driving pleasure in sport mode to make it a good weekend / long distance GT?
Coming from an Exige I love the thought of the more hardcore GT3 but unless I am going to track it regulary will it be too compromised for my intended use?
I also like the more up to date interior of the 997.
Anyone tried both as an only car?
I was in a similar position a while back, and thought the best option could be a 997C2 with the sports suspension kit, which is lowered by 20mm and also includes an LSD.
They are however few and far between but do exist.
I had an earlier 996 with sports suspension and found it very involving to drive without being too uncomfortable.
I ended up getting the chance of a cancelled new GT3 and went for that instead.
In some ways I find it almost too fast for the road, but is a great drive, and more comfortable than the earlier models.
They are however few and far between but do exist.
I had an earlier 996 with sports suspension and found it very involving to drive without being too uncomfortable.
I ended up getting the chance of a cancelled new GT3 and went for that instead.
In some ways I find it almost too fast for the road, but is a great drive, and more comfortable than the earlier models.
I've owned a 997 C2S for a year now and have found it a brilliant car. It has the LSD and -20mm suspension as well as ceramic brakes and in real terms (with my lowly level of driving skills) just as enjoyable as my old Mk1 GT3 - albeit not as raw (nor rare!) but with rear seats it was far more 'wife friendly'!
Mine's now for sale (car, not wife) as I have decided to be stupid and go Italian for a wee while.
My advice is to try a drive in a C2S (or C2) - they are very capable and as you say more modern. A nice decision for you - enjoy!
Mine's now for sale (car, not wife) as I have decided to be stupid and go Italian for a wee while.
My advice is to try a drive in a C2S (or C2) - they are very capable and as you say more modern. A nice decision for you - enjoy!
The 997 has the obvious benefit of having back "seats"
That aside, in engineering terms, the two engines are miles apart.
The 997 does not have a proper dry sump engine, its a derivative of the RMS affected 996 engine. (plenty of 997s have had rms too, so says my opc tech) - he said we'd be shocked if we saw the number of new and old engines they have waiting to be shipped in and out. This standard 911 engine is not raced.
The GT3 engine is derived from the GT1 le mans winning car. Is dry sumped and has race proven technology.
£40k engine vs a £15k engine.
What you're getting in engine terms is miles apart.
All imo.
Ajit.
That aside, in engineering terms, the two engines are miles apart.
The 997 does not have a proper dry sump engine, its a derivative of the RMS affected 996 engine. (plenty of 997s have had rms too, so says my opc tech) - he said we'd be shocked if we saw the number of new and old engines they have waiting to be shipped in and out. This standard 911 engine is not raced.
The GT3 engine is derived from the GT1 le mans winning car. Is dry sumped and has race proven technology.
£40k engine vs a £15k engine.
What you're getting in engine terms is miles apart.
All imo.
Ajit.
I had a 996GT3 Mk2 for weekend use over a period of a year. The engine is incredible but I found the ride very harsh for road use - this is an area the mew 997GT3 has improved on.
I also test drove a 997C2S which had a much more compliant ride and felt pretty much as quick as the GT3. Admittedly not as 'special' but unless you plan lots of trackwork it would be my choice.
Craig
I also test drove a 997C2S which had a much more compliant ride and felt pretty much as quick as the GT3. Admittedly not as 'special' but unless you plan lots of trackwork it would be my choice.
Craig
Singh911 said:
The 997 has the obvious benefit of having back "seats"
That aside, in engineering terms, the two engines are miles apart.
The 997 does not have a proper dry sump engine, its a derivative of the RMS affected 996 engine. (plenty of 997s have had rms too, so says my opc tech) - he said we'd be shocked if we saw the number of new and old engines they have waiting to be shipped in and out. This standard 911 engine is not raced.
The GT3 engine is derived from the GT1 le mans winning car. Is dry sumped and has race proven technology.
£40k engine vs a £15k engine.
What you're getting in engine terms is miles apart.
All imo.
Ajit.
I'd rather keep the 25K aside and just pay a few hundred for any RMS issues, if they popped up. 1 in 50 chance according to Baz.That aside, in engineering terms, the two engines are miles apart.
The 997 does not have a proper dry sump engine, its a derivative of the RMS affected 996 engine. (plenty of 997s have had rms too, so says my opc tech) - he said we'd be shocked if we saw the number of new and old engines they have waiting to be shipped in and out. This standard 911 engine is not raced.
The GT3 engine is derived from the GT1 le mans winning car. Is dry sumped and has race proven technology.
£40k engine vs a £15k engine.
What you're getting in engine terms is miles apart.
All imo.
Ajit.
But then again,
GT3, mmmm 
Edited by Bumcrack on Monday 2nd July 18:40
Davey S2 said:
Considering some Pork for my next car. I currently have an Exige for weekend use and a scruffy Rover as my everyday snotter.
Considering one car to do both functions.
I have a short drive (5 miles) to work and the car would be used for fast road use with a few long distance trips to the continent each year. Might do one or two track days each year(my bank manager is startig to get fed up with my current expensive rubber fetish)
I know a 997 would make a good, comfortable everyday comuter but would it allow enough driving pleasure in sport mode to make it a good weekend / long distance GT?
Coming from an Exige I love the thought of the more hardcore GT3 but unless I am going to track it regulary will it be too compromised for my intended use?
I also like the more up to date interior of the 997.
Anyone tried both as an only car?
A track day will cost you about a grand a pop. Think carefully before you track a 911. If your bank manager thinks you have a rubber fettish now, you will adopt pervert status if you track a rear engined porker. Considering one car to do both functions.
I have a short drive (5 miles) to work and the car would be used for fast road use with a few long distance trips to the continent each year. Might do one or two track days each year(my bank manager is startig to get fed up with my current expensive rubber fetish)
I know a 997 would make a good, comfortable everyday comuter but would it allow enough driving pleasure in sport mode to make it a good weekend / long distance GT?
Coming from an Exige I love the thought of the more hardcore GT3 but unless I am going to track it regulary will it be too compromised for my intended use?
I also like the more up to date interior of the 997.
Anyone tried both as an only car?
If you are still intent on tracking a 911, I'd go for a GT3. If not, the 997C2S is a great car
Steve R
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