Are hidden speed cameras allowed??

[GavDav]

Driving down the A470 in South Wales today and theres a guy with what looked like a speed camera looking out the back of an unmarked burgandy vehicle. Are the Police allowed to do this??

[dougc]

Yep.

[GavDav]

bit sneaky isnt it though?

[JustinP1]

Yes.

But then the 'Safety Camera' isnt about making you slow down is it?

[GavDav]

Is there any piece of Legislation where it says their allowed to do this?

[alphadog]

Until recently for the Scamera partnership to receive money from the prosecutions, they had to make their devices visible.

Now the scammers are funded centrally and the new Chief of ACPO is encouraging hidden cameras, I think a few hidden traps will spring up

Cumbria partnership are reported as wanting to deploy hidden scams, but they are the 'Spanish Inquisition' of speed enforcement, aren't they!

Edited by alphadog on Tuesday 3rd July 13:22

[NobleGuy]

alphadog said:

Now the scammers are funded centrally and the new Chief of ACPO is encouraging hidden cameras, I think a few hidden traps will spring up

Hopefully with a load of hand-made warning signs nearby.

[streaky]

GavDav said:

Driving down the A470 in South Wales today and theres a guy with what looked like a speed camera looking out the back of an unmarked burgandy vehicle. Are the Police allowed to do this??

Don't necessarily blame the police - Streaky

[GavDav]

streaky said:

GavDav said:

Driving down the A470 in South Wales today and theres a guy with what looked like a speed camera looking out the back of an unmarked burgandy vehicle. Are the Police allowed to do this??

Don't necessarily blame the police - Streaky

Who could have been in the back of that car then, didnt look like a bird watcher to me?!

[pbsaxman]

GavDav said:

streaky said:

GavDav said:

Driving down the A470 in South Wales today and theres a guy with what looked like a speed camera looking out the back of an unmarked burgandy vehicle. Are the Police allowed to do this??

Don't necessarily blame the police - Streaky

Who could have been in the back of that car then, didnt look like a bird watcher to me?!

Saw something on tele last night and a similar situation with rear facing camera was ANPR. Not saying thats what this was but they are around.

[GavDav]

pbsaxman said:

GavDav said:

streaky said:

GavDav said:

Driving down the A470 in South Wales today and theres a guy with what looked like a speed camera looking out the back of an unmarked burgandy vehicle. Are the Police allowed to do this??

Don't necessarily blame the police - Streaky

Who could have been in the back of that car then, didnt look like a bird watcher to me?!

Saw something on tele last night and a similar situation with rear facing camera was ANPR. Not saying thats what this was but they are around.

Hope it was an ANPR. Though I somehow cant help but think that it wasnt, by his location and the way he was hiding in the back of the car. Dont they usually have marked vans with the ANPR on or am I getting it confused with the ones the DVLA use for tax discs etc..

[bluepolarbear]

alphadog said:

Until recently for the Scamera partnership to receive money from the prosecutions, they had to make their devices visible.

Now the scammers are funded centrally and the new Chief of ACPO is encouraging hidden cameras, I think a few hidden traps will spring up

Cumbria partnership are reported as wanting to deploy hidden scams, but they are the 'Spanish Inquisition' of speed enforcement, aren't they!

Edited by alphadog on Tuesday 3rd July 13:22

Even under the old guidelines (and they were nothing more) they were allowed to hide them for a small %. Spin hyped the guidelines up into something else to pacify the common man.

[bluepolarbear]

streaky said:

GavDav said:

Driving down the A470 in South Wales today and theres a guy with what looked like a speed camera looking out the back of an unmarked burgandy vehicle. Are the Police allowed to do this??

Don't necessarily blame the police - Streaky

Why? It is only the police that perform speed checks. Sometimes in the shiny uniforms and sometimes under the guise of the SCP. The SCP are the police don't be confused by the spin

[allaway]

GavDav said:

Is there any piece of Legislation where it says their allowed to do this?

Is there any piece of legislation that says you're allowed to speed?

[pbsaxman]

GavDav said:

pbsaxman said:

GavDav said:

streaky said:

GavDav said:

Driving down the A470 in South Wales today and theres a guy with what looked like a speed camera looking out the back of an unmarked burgandy vehicle. Are the Police allowed to do this??

Don't necessarily blame the police - Streaky

Who could have been in the back of that car then, didnt look like a bird watcher to me?!

Saw something on tele last night and a similar situation with rear facing camera was ANPR. Not saying thats what this was but they are around.

Hope it was an ANPR. Though I somehow cant help but think that it wasnt, by his location and the way he was hiding in the back of the car. Dont they usually have marked vans with the ANPR on or am I getting it confused with the ones the DVLA use for tax discs etc..

I thought they did too but the one I saw on tele was an unmarked car.ANPR camera's front and rear. Can't for the life of me remember what it was I was watching Old age !!

[Lotusespritforum]

We all know that a visible deterrent is much better than a hidden net to catch everyone after the event.

I know it's a bit of a wild one, but this is like letting someone run around with a knife until they stab someone then arrest them. If speeding is the murderous activity we're all constantly told it is, that's not a far off analogy. Surely stopping people committing crime is better than catching them at it. What a wonderful utopia we would live in if there were no crime, the BiB would still have a job preventing it.