911 convertable on Auto trader
Discussion
Howdy,
Looking for a decent 911 convertable - either 993 or 996, attempting to get it for under £20k (can wait until winter at the mo)
- I'm presently out of the country (hence while I highlight this one instead of keeping it to myself)
This looks too good to be true - anyone know the car? Likely con? Hve had an email response from the female owner. If I could I would be pursueing this hard!
2002 PORSCHE 911 2dr Tiptronic S Carrera 2 Cabriolet
Price:
£15,800
Features:
* 34,560 miles
* Automatic
* BLUE
* Petrol
* 2 Door Cabriolet
* 02 reg (2002)
Automatic, 34,560 miles, Blue. 3x3 point rear seat belts, ABS, Air conditioning, Alarm, Alloy wheels, Drivers airbag. £15,800
Opinions please!
Looking for a decent 911 convertable - either 993 or 996, attempting to get it for under £20k (can wait until winter at the mo)
- I'm presently out of the country (hence while I highlight this one instead of keeping it to myself)
This looks too good to be true - anyone know the car? Likely con? Hve had an email response from the female owner. If I could I would be pursueing this hard!
2002 PORSCHE 911 2dr Tiptronic S Carrera 2 Cabriolet
Price:
£15,800
Features:
* 34,560 miles
* Automatic
* BLUE
* Petrol
* 2 Door Cabriolet
* 02 reg (2002)
Automatic, 34,560 miles, Blue. 3x3 point rear seat belts, ABS, Air conditioning, Alarm, Alloy wheels, Drivers airbag. £15,800
Opinions please!
Scam.
Found a similar one 18 months ago for an X5 that turned out to be in France and needed shipping over etc etc etc. Pretty convincing - even down to a fake website for the shipping company (but once you dug into it the links lead duff). Reported to AutoTrader who replied saying that it was a common scam and they were trying to stop it - clearly with limited success!
IF IT SEEMS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, IT PROBABLY IS!!!
Found a similar one 18 months ago for an X5 that turned out to be in France and needed shipping over etc etc etc. Pretty convincing - even down to a fake website for the shipping company (but once you dug into it the links lead duff). Reported to AutoTrader who replied saying that it was a common scam and they were trying to stop it - clearly with limited success!
IF IT SEEMS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, IT PROBABLY IS!!!
Reply from advertiser....
"Hi Ben,
The car is being advertised on Autotrader. As per your request, will attach some photos in my next email. Here is the reg. no.: SL02 OGR. If we reach an agreement, I am willing to arrange the truck shipping to your address. Shipping will take 15 days maximum. I have managed to obtain a low cost shipping, only £400 and I presume it would be fair to split the shipping cost so, we'll pay £200 each. Meaning, that the car and the shipping/handling will cost you £16,000. I think this is reasonable. Let me know.
Due to amount involved, I suggest using the security provided by eBay's purchase protection, which is using bank accounts for handling payment. In my opinion this is the safest way to handle the transaction. You will have the car along with all appropriate documents for inspection and test drive BEFORE any money is released to me. That's eBay's procedure.
Let me know if you're willing to proceed on this basis.
Cheers !
Claudia."
All this matches up with what your all saying - ie a con.
So how does it work? How does she make her clean get away?
"Hi Ben,
The car is being advertised on Autotrader. As per your request, will attach some photos in my next email. Here is the reg. no.: SL02 OGR. If we reach an agreement, I am willing to arrange the truck shipping to your address. Shipping will take 15 days maximum. I have managed to obtain a low cost shipping, only £400 and I presume it would be fair to split the shipping cost so, we'll pay £200 each. Meaning, that the car and the shipping/handling will cost you £16,000. I think this is reasonable. Let me know.
Due to amount involved, I suggest using the security provided by eBay's purchase protection, which is using bank accounts for handling payment. In my opinion this is the safest way to handle the transaction. You will have the car along with all appropriate documents for inspection and test drive BEFORE any money is released to me. That's eBay's procedure.
Let me know if you're willing to proceed on this basis.
Cheers !
Claudia."
All this matches up with what your all saying - ie a con.
So how does it work? How does she make her clean get away?
Shipping.... Now there's a surprise 
Firstly, just so you're not under any illusion, the car doesn't exist!
Secondly, have a bit of fun. Say you need to view the car first, any objection, overcome it. Be willing to fly and coincidentally have an office in the town where it's allegedly located. Go on, you owe it to us to have a laugh with her
On were on.....
"Car looks good, sort of thing I'm looking for. Is there FSH? Any crash repairs etc? I am actually in Austria next week (I have family friends out there so visiting on holiday)- where about are you? Would like to come and view the car and potentially drive it back to UK (save on shipping costs).
Ben"
"Car looks good, sort of thing I'm looking for. Is there FSH? Any crash repairs etc? I am actually in Austria next week (I have family friends out there so visiting on holiday)- where about are you? Would like to come and view the car and potentially drive it back to UK (save on shipping costs).
Ben"
Not wanting to spoil anyones fun , but Ben , keep in the back of your mind that you're playing with criminals who don't give a sh1t about you or your family , and may be operating from within the UK ...
I'm not trying to sound ominous or anything , I'd love to see the scammer scammed too , just look after No.1 before taking the joke any further mate..
I'm not trying to sound ominous or anything , I'd love to see the scammer scammed too , just look after No.1 before taking the joke any further mate..
Trust me there really is no such thing as a cheap Porsche. As a dealer we would pay over 10,000 more for that car unseen, when ever a car is being advertised for less than the trade would pay something isn`t quite right. You`ll get a 993 cab somewhere for 20k or less, I think you`ll probably struggle with a 996 unless there is something very wrong with it.
Henry
Henry
Saw the same with a BMW Z8 in Spain
It was just over £40k when in the UK they are normally at the £50k mark
Surprisingly never heard from the seller again when I said I will be getting the next flight over and happy to drive it back!
The other scam is to insist on a deposit within 24 hours of the auction ending (ebay) again you never hear anything from the seller again
It was just over £40k when in the UK they are normally at the £50k mark
Surprisingly never heard from the seller again when I said I will be getting the next flight over and happy to drive it back!
The other scam is to insist on a deposit within 24 hours of the auction ending (ebay) again you never hear anything from the seller again
Ok point taken with scammers - this will be my last on the subject. I know if it seems too good to be true it is...but I'm still tempoted - just in case!!
Dont worry will not be following it up.
"Hi Ben,
The Porsche has full service history and has NEVER been involved in any kind of accidents, not even scratched! I have no problem with you coming to Austria and personally inspect/collect the car as long as you manage to arrive here (Klagenfurt - southern Austria) sometime in the next days. Cash is more than welcome but time is also important.
If you can not make it to Klagenfurt in a timely manner, I suggest we stick to eBay's procedure. Given the distance between us and the size of the transaction, I think it's the safest way around.
Since I presume you are not familiar with eBay's purchase protection, I have briefly described the eBay transaction steps below:
1. Buyer, seller reach an agreement (price and delivery conditions)
2. Buyer sends money to eBay.
3. eBay confirms to seller that the amount has been received.
4. Seller performs the required services (shipping, insurance).
5. Buyer accepts delivery and informs eBay about the acceptance.
6. eBay releases the money to seller.
As you can see, you will receive the car BEFORE any money is released to me. You will get the chance to inspect it, test drive it and everything you like while your money is still safely held in eBay's account. ONLY after you confirm to eBay that you agree with the vehicle, they will release the money to me.
If, for some reason, you disagree with the car (I assure you that is NOT going to happen since my Porsche is in IMMACULATE condition inside and out) it will be shipped back to me on MY EXPENSE and eBay will send you your money back.
If you wish to proceed further, I will need your complete name, eBay user ID and your email address registered with eBay, so I can set up the transaction.
Let me know if we can get the ball rolling.
Regards,
Claudia."
I am assuming that teh scam is that where as above she suggests that Ebay "hold" the money that actaully is goes to "her" account and you never hear from them again? If i were to followe this up I wonder how she would react if I were to suggest using a solicitor as the financial mediator?
Dont worry will not be following it up.
"Hi Ben,
The Porsche has full service history and has NEVER been involved in any kind of accidents, not even scratched! I have no problem with you coming to Austria and personally inspect/collect the car as long as you manage to arrive here (Klagenfurt - southern Austria) sometime in the next days. Cash is more than welcome but time is also important.
If you can not make it to Klagenfurt in a timely manner, I suggest we stick to eBay's procedure. Given the distance between us and the size of the transaction, I think it's the safest way around.
Since I presume you are not familiar with eBay's purchase protection, I have briefly described the eBay transaction steps below:
1. Buyer, seller reach an agreement (price and delivery conditions)
2. Buyer sends money to eBay.
3. eBay confirms to seller that the amount has been received.
4. Seller performs the required services (shipping, insurance).
5. Buyer accepts delivery and informs eBay about the acceptance.
6. eBay releases the money to seller.
As you can see, you will receive the car BEFORE any money is released to me. You will get the chance to inspect it, test drive it and everything you like while your money is still safely held in eBay's account. ONLY after you confirm to eBay that you agree with the vehicle, they will release the money to me.
If, for some reason, you disagree with the car (I assure you that is NOT going to happen since my Porsche is in IMMACULATE condition inside and out) it will be shipped back to me on MY EXPENSE and eBay will send you your money back.
If you wish to proceed further, I will need your complete name, eBay user ID and your email address registered with eBay, so I can set up the transaction.
Let me know if we can get the ball rolling.
Regards,
Claudia."
I am assuming that teh scam is that where as above she suggests that Ebay "hold" the money that actaully is goes to "her" account and you never hear from them again? If i were to followe this up I wonder how she would react if I were to suggest using a solicitor as the financial mediator?
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