Finally gone Open Loop

[stigmundfreud]

With a lot of help from Ringram I finally took the plunge and upgraded my OS to an EFILive custom runnin the 2004 HSV Clubsport OL map. A few tweaks to the tables and lot more logging to make sure everything is ok but the car pulls a hell of a lot stronger than before. I do need to fine tune the fueling but it seems pretty good but feels so strong.

Ditched LTFT and even STFT so its semi-OL however, I am having to currently monitor mixture by monitoring the O2 voltages (eventually going wideband)

I have to say if you like to learn about your kit, EFILive+their forum+ringram is money well spent.

Of course this time next week I'll be searching for a replacement engine knowing my luck but so far I'm learning so much more about how the car works, the fuelling and most of all I can feel it in the seat of my pants.

Be interesting to get down to Surrey RR to do a comparison with my last run there and to check my mixture out whilst I save for the widebands. But to anyone thinking whether or not to get efilive, I'm singing it and their praises.

[ringram]

.. I thought you might like that tune. Did you log any KR? Its stock HSV tune so might need a little tweaking to suit. Actually the HSV auto timing table is a little less aggressive than the manual one and might be a good candidate for a copy/paste action if you find any KR. But in general the power from the 285kw hsv tune is hard to beat.

[stigmundfreud]

I had very little knock, same as before but the timing is, as you said, aggressive - certainly the advance is dancing all over the place whereas before it was smooth.

I decided to do the semi-open loop option.

Oh and I made a boo boo, I enteted the afr figures in lambda mode not equiv - that makes for interesting results!

[Gelf VXR]

Did you purchase in the uk or import from the US?

I can get Efi Live and 2 LC-1 WB's shipped for £540 from US

Edited by Gelf VXR on Sunday 22 July 17:43

[stigmundfreud]

thats a fantastic price then!

I first bought the scan only then the upgrade to tune.I got the upgrade direct from the supplier as Ringram was on holiday

to get to widebands and a tune version of efilive 2 that sound like a good deal!

[ringram]

Someone keeps deleting my comments
Just saying you should contact the local distro as they might be able to do you a competitive quote!

[stigmundfreud]

ringram said:

Someone keeps deleting my comments
Just saying you should contact the local distro as they might be able to do you a competitive quote!

how much did i end up paying in the end?

someone shouldnt be deleting your comments not without a effing reason thats out of order

[ringram]

Not sure mate.
Do the calcs, I think the v1 scan was well cheap like a couple of hundred wasnt it? Most get the v2 these days.

[Gelf VXR]

From Green light Motor Sports

Products (Edit)
1 x FlashScan V2 Scan and Tune + Innovate LC-1 Wideband Controller $848.00
1 x Innovate Motorsports LC-1 Wideband Controller $199.00
1 x Shipping $20.00

Total: $1,067.00


Got all the way to paypal, after currency conversion = 532.79 GBP

I held off purchasing because I wont back in th uk till mid August and I wanted to check UK pricing again. UK would be better for after sales support

Edit

Its near £700 in the UK, took the plunge, just in case its an error lol

Edited by Gelf VXR on Monday 23 July 02:49

[stigmundfreud]

ringram said:

Not sure mate.
Do the calcs, I think the v1 scan was well cheap like a couple of hundred wasnt it? Most get the v2 these days.

ah I got v2, v1 would have been the cheaper option I suppose plus it has black box if I am correct! Any news on bb for v2?

[ringram]

Gelf VXR said:

Its near £700 in the UK, took the plunge, just in case its an error lol

Tisk, tisk, should have emailed as you would have been able to get something similar here.
Once VAT is added on top of duty and shipping you will be over £600.

[Gelf VXR]

ringram said:

Gelf VXR said:

Its near £700 in the UK, took the plunge, just in case its an error lol

Tisk, tisk, should have emailed as you would have been able to get something similar here.
Once VAT is added on top of duty and shipping you will be over £600.

I just recieved this email from Green Light Motor Sports!!!!!!

Foul Play


Green Light Motorsports
Order Number: 409
Detailed Invoice: http://www.greenlightmotorsports.com/account_histo...
Ordered: Monday 23 July, 2007
The comments for your order are Mr. Sanders,

Unfortunately I just realized that you are located in the UK. The paypal e-check shows as ineligible for credit protection. Due to this we will be unable to process your order. You may contact [e-mail] or http://www.efilive.eu/ and Richard will be glad to finish your order. Once the e-check is clear I will immediately refund your order 100%. Sorry for any confusion.

Thanks

Chad Rose

[stigmundfreud]

I am willing to sell you my spare vin tune license

[ringram]

PM me and Ill take care of everything.

[stigmundfreud]

gelf, word of warning. This thing is adictive. Even if its all just pretty colours appearing in your maps its a great toy. Should come with a health warning

[Gelf VXR]

ringram said:

PM me and Ill take care of everything.

PM sent

[Gelf VXR]

stigmundfreud said:

ah I got v2, v1 would have been the cheaper option I suppose plus it has black box if I am correct! Any news on bb for v2?

Black box? Do you mean data logging without the laptop?

[stigmundfreud]

Gelf VXR said:

stigmundfreud said:

ah I got v2, v1 would have been the cheaper option I suppose plus it has black box if I am correct! Any news on bb for v2?

Black box? Do you mean data logging without the laptop?

yep its on the way for v2, if not already here

[ringram]

Logging and flashing actually.
But you are right, its not here quite yet. Software upgrade when it is though, no cost addition.

[stigmundfreud]

oooh so we'll be able to put the tune onto the v2, then upload it without the PC, then log?

I know they said they have it working but waiting for the development of the next software or something, a new software architecture?

What is the onboard logging capability? Is it possible to increase it with say a larger sd card?