Charitable donation via company accts
Charitable donation via company accts
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kryten22uk

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2,350 posts

261 months

Tuesday 10th July 2007
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I am going to give a charitable donation to my daughters school, but pay it from my company hence pay it out of pre tax profits. Can I still tick the "giftaid" type box? Is there anything else I can do to maximise the offering?

Also, do I need a receipt to show the accountant at the year end?

Ta

Eric Mc

125,768 posts

295 months

Tuesday 10th July 2007
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I don't think that charitable donations paid by a limited company are eligible for Gift Aid relief.

Furthermore, the company cannot claim the charitable donation as an expense against its business income. In other words, it will not get any reduction in its Corporation Tax bill by making a donation to charity.

Chrisgr31

14,289 posts

285 months

Tuesday 10th July 2007
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So does this men there are no tax benefits to a company giving money to a charity? Either for the charity or company? Ask as I am the Chairman of a Charity and we need to raise a lot of money for a new community hall.

David_s

7,960 posts

274 months

Tuesday 10th July 2007
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Eric Mc said:
Furthermore, the company cannot claim the charitable donation as an expense against its business income. In other words, it will not get any reduction in its Corporation Tax bill by making a donation to charity.
I asked my accountant the same question last year and he charged me for the advice, so it cost me corporation tax and accountant tax! frown

It seems a bit harsh that the expense isn't an allowable business expense, it doesn't encourage charitable giving.

Eric Mc

125,768 posts

295 months

Tuesday 10th July 2007
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Correct.

There are some very limited situations where a BUSINESS can offset a charitable donation against its profits.
If the charity can confer some use to the business - such as a local fire station or a police benevolent fund or a workers benevolent fund, then the expense can be claimed under the "wholly and exclusively for the purpose of the trade" rule. Otherwise, charitable donations do not tend to be "for the purpose of the trade" and therefore cannot be claimed.
A payment to a charity for advertising space or sponsorship of an event WOULD be allowable under the "wholly and exclusively" rule.

Note that I used the word "business" - so this applies to limited companies, sole traderships and partnerships.

Leftie

11,838 posts

265 months

Thursday 12th July 2007
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I have had donations to national charities bounced by by acountant because I couldn't show the business benefit.

However, he was comfortable with our sponsorship of £250 to a very local charity where we got a mention in their news letters and our name on specific things they bought with the donation ( a local bench). I see in the accounts it came up as 'advertising' which is what it is ( well it keeps the locals off our backs and stops them moaning about early morning TNT deliveries).

Eric Mc

125,768 posts

295 months

Thursday 12th July 2007
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It's that old "Wholly and exclusively" theme at work again.

There is nothing to stop companies making charitable donations to any legitimate charity. It's just that neither the charity nor the company will be able to obtrain any tax relief on the donations.

Of course, the government would say that companies should be willing to support charities irrespective of the tax regime.

kryten22uk

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2,350 posts

261 months

Thursday 12th July 2007
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Thanks all. That goes against what my accountant told me (although I didnt speak to the senior guy), but I think i'll just do it privately and tick GiftAid.